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    • FollyF
      Folly @AdamBeGood
      last edited by Folly

      @adambegood

      Nice,

      Now we have to play, after all the effort involving ;-)
      Let me know how it goes.

      With mame we can (we can pause first with P) :

      • save states with : shift-left + F7
      • load states with : shift-right + F7

      Can you defeat this one, in stage 1 ? :

      Screenshot_20211205_122911.png

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        AdamBeGood @Folly
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        @folly I didn't have time to properly play but I'll let you know when I get a chance to play - probably tomorrow. It seems quite hard from a quick play!

        Thanks for the save state help also!

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          AdamBeGood @AdamBeGood
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          @Folly - on a totally distinct issue, a bit off-topic I'll admit; I've got a Sinden Light Gun now and thought about getting it to work with Saturn tonight (I've got NES, SNES and Dreamcast working so far).

          However, I need to try it on a libretro core and for some weird reason my Saturn games are all launching straight to Yabasanshiro regardless of how I have them set up in emulators.cfg. Some games are set to other cores, but it doesn't make a difference - I get no runcommand menu and Yabasanshiro just boots straight up.

          Any idea where I look to resolve this? I don't remember changing anything here...

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @adambegood That's because standalone yabasanshiro doesn't use runcommand. You would have changed that in your es_systems.cfg when setting up yabasanshiro.

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              AdamBeGood @Zering
              last edited by AdamBeGood

              @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

              @adambegood That's because standalone yabasanshiro doesn't use runcommand. You would have changed that in your es_systems.cfg when setting up yabasanshiro.

              Thanks, @zering. I guess I just hadn't noticed. Can I have yabasanshiro installed and still choose other emulators? Or do I have to take a line out of config every time to do that?

              I didn't expect a response from you on this one!

              Edit: Take that line out and put a normal runcommand line in and that seems all good now.

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              • testudoT
                testudo @Folly
                last edited by

                @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @adambegood

                Nice,

                Now we have to play, after all the effort involving ;-)
                Let me know how it goes.

                With mame we can (we can pause first with P) :

                • save states with : shift-left + F7
                • load states with : shift-right + F7

                Can you defeat this one, in stage 1 ? :

                Screenshot_20211205_122911.png

                Concur, brilliant detective work! I can only get it to boot using the lr-mess-fmtowns config, the other fmtowns and mame runcommand selections do not work. But, changing the Joystick port 2 to <nothing> removed the in game freezing and it plays great. I'll just manually change it back to <mouse> when done playing. No luck in my first attempt to defeat the stage 1 Boss.

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                • DTEAMD
                  DTEAM @testudo
                  last edited by

                  @Folly
                  On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                  Does somebody already managed that?

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                    AdamBeGood @DTEAM
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                    @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @Folly
                    On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                    Does somebody already managed that?

                    I'd be surprised if Folly hasn't cracked that, I think it might have been discussed at some point.

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                    • FollyF
                      Folly @DTEAM
                      last edited by Folly

                      @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @Folly
                      On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                      Does somebody already managed that?

                      I will have a look, it should be possible.

                      Edit :
                      Tested 4d tennis adding the user floppy in the GUI but the floppy file isn't accepted.
                      runcommand.log gives this error :
                      Fatal error: Device 3.5" high density floppy drive load failed: Unable to identify the image format

                      I will look at it later again.

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                      • FollyF
                        Folly @DTEAM
                        last edited by

                        @dteam

                        It looks like we both use NEOKOBE files for fmtowns.
                        I think that the user floppy files have an image structure that cannot be read by mame somehow.
                        I think we need to convert the floppy files or try to find ones that work with mame.

                        I was able to create an empty .hdm floppy image which is accepted but it seems it's not enough for "4D Tennis".

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                        • testudoT
                          testudo @Folly
                          last edited by

                          @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @Folly
                          On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                          Does somebody already managed that?

                          I will have a look, it should be possible.

                          Edit :
                          Tested 4d tennis adding the user floppy in the GUI but the floppy file isn't accepted.
                          runcommand.log gives this error :
                          Fatal error: Device 3.5" high density floppy drive load failed: Unable to identify the image format

                          I will look at it later again.

                          With FMTowns using lr-Mess, 4D Tennis will boot and be fully playable if you add a blank formatted disk in .hdm format with the GUI at the user disk prompt. The specific user disk file I had for 4D Tennis was .bin format and was not recognized.

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                          • FollyF
                            Folly @testudo
                            last edited by Folly

                            @testudo

                            Is it a 1.2Mb floppy .hdm image or a 1.44Mb ?

                            I tried the same, as what you did, with mame with a 1.2Mb .hdm but that didn't seem to work.
                            So perhaps I missing something here.

                            I have to try it again.

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                            • testudoT
                              testudo @Folly
                              last edited by testudo

                              @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @testudo

                              Is it a 1.2Mb floppy .hdm image or a 1.44Mb ?

                              I tried the same, as what you did, with mame with a 1.2Mb .hdm but that didn't seem to work.
                              So perhaps I missing something here.

                              I have to try it again.

                              I'm not sure how to check the file size in the FMTowns OS, but the "ROM" file size is 1,261,568 bytes, so I would guess it is a 1.2Mb. It is MS-DOS formatted if that is a clue: I used Repacked Neo Kobe [OS] Blank disk/

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                              • FollyF
                                Folly @testudo
                                last edited by Folly

                                @testudo @DTEAM

                                It's an 1.2Mb floppy image.

                                I used the same now for mame.
                                But basically I had the same problem as the last time.

                                Inserting the floppy image and select : read and write.
                                After some time it will say : check user disk !

                                I decided to select : read from image and save to another image.
                                Then it asks what kind of image format, I selected : fmtowns unformatted and changed the name so it will create a new floppy.

                                After that it was accepted and I could go playing.
                                But the game seems stuck after selecting some play options.

                                Did you manage to play ?

                                Btw.
                                Using the game specific load option has it's advantage.
                                When selecting the floppy image next time it will show up the correct directory for selecting the image.

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                                • testudoT
                                  testudo @Folly
                                  last edited by testudo

                                  @folly

                                  I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

                                  Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

                                  I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

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                                  • FollyF
                                    Folly @testudo
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                    @folly

                                    I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

                                    Curious if it will works, on your side.

                                    Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

                                    I don't know what problem you have then.

                                    I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

                                    Nice solution.

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                                    • FollyF
                                      Folly @testudo
                                      last edited by Folly

                                      @testudo

                                      Progress, indeed I got it, it's working.
                                      Only the carreer option doesn't work, I think.

                                      2021-12-19-142509_800x600_scrot.png

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                                      • testudoT
                                        testudo @Folly
                                        last edited by

                                        @folly

                                        Fantastic! I was going to post that I played 5 sets in <Exhibition> and it worked fine.

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                                        • testudoT
                                          testudo
                                          last edited by

                                          @Folly
                                          Does the Acorn Archimedes emulation still work for you? I have updated RP a few times and recently went back to revisit my Archimedes game library, only to find I am unable to launch any games. I usually get the screen below (remember seeing this previously, but forget the fix) when using lr-mess. The RISC OS never boots.
                                          Screenshot from 2022-03-22 17-33-01.png

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                                          • FollyF
                                            Folly @testudo
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            @testudo

                                            Yes, it works.

                                            You should check your /dev/shm/runcommand.log .

                                            I used my latest mamedev-script 241.00 .
                                            Installed "aa310 + booting Risc OS 310 + floppy" from the EXTRAS section .
                                            Placed the these bioses in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame :
                                            aa310.7z
                                            archimedes_keyboard.7z

                                            extracted the mame software archimedes.zip in /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes .

                                            Loaded lemming.zip correctly with :
                                            lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop
                                            lr-run_mess-aa310-flop-autoframeskip
                                            mame-aa310-bios_310-flop

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