Old Computer Appreciation Thread

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood Don't worry about it matching. Get the BIOS straight from Project Neko. If it still doesn't work with those, we know the problem is coming from something else.

I've installed Project Neko on my PC (well, downloaded that is, installing is a stretch), and there don't seem to be BIOS with that, or on the site. I'll try googling around.

Edit: I feel like I am jinxed, or like I'm being a real idiot today. There is some kind of BIOS included as games are getting further than on my Pi (while still not loading).

Zering

@AdamBeGood You're jinxed ^^

I think I'm having some bad luck myself, with PC88.

@Folly Still no luck with PC88. I've reinstalled from source twice. The sub CPU setting is set to the right value.

But, testing with Final Crisis, my video output looks nothing like yours. There are basically no colours besides white and purple, yours has a bunch of red and other colours.

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood You're jinxed ^^

I think I'm having some bad luck myself, with PC88.

@Folly Still no luck with PC88. I've reinstalled from source twice. The sub CPU setting is set to the right value.

But, testing with Final Crisis, my video output looks nothing like yours. There are basically no colours besides white and purple, yours has a bunch of red and other colours.

Perhaps you have an older verion of the game. The older versions of the pc-88 just have a few colors.
Is you version set to V2 ?

My game version has 5 disks.

Zering

@Folly Mine only has three.

What is your rom named?

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly Mine only has three.

What is your rom named?

Fire Hawk - Thexder 2 (Game Arts)

Zering

@Folly I mean Final Crisis ^^

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly I mean Final Crisis ^^

Ok. have also 3 disks
Final Crisis (Techno Grard)

c7a225228ab2f24535b30d816883645d Final Crisis (Disk A).d88
7dfd1a416f0e1434bbbddb87d19dc4d1 Final Crisis (Disk B).d88
1486b21aaf38c018229d3867c186a2bb Final Crisis (Disk C).d88

Zering

@Folly That's the exact same version I've got.
Could the differences be because you're running them via .m3u?

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly That's the exact same version I've got.
Could the differences be because you're running them via .m3u?

Don't think so, you can try though.

Then you have to add .m3u , as sudo user, in :
/etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg

Zering

@Folly You were right, it made no difference.
Do you have any idea what could cause this? A faulty BIOS maybe?

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly You were right, it made no difference.
Do you have any idea what could cause this? A faulty BIOS maybe?

do you want my sums ?

Zering

@Folly Sure, it can't hurt!
Thanks for all your help.

Folly

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly Sure, it can't hurt!
Thanks for all your help.

Before I updated from source I also changed a few to make them the same as in the docs.

md5sum .
d675a2ca186c6efcd6277b835de4c7e5 N88EXT0.ROM
e844534dfe5744b381444dbe61ef1b66 N88EXT1.ROM
6548fa45061274dee1ea8ae1e9e93910 N88EXT2.ROM
fc4b76a402ba501e6ba6de4b3e8b4273 N88EXT3.ROM
cbcade0d0057bb9eee79a6b370b4dd3a N88JISHO.ROM
d81c6d5d7ad1a4bbbd6ae22a01257603 N88KNJ1.ROM
41d2e2c0c0edfccf76fa1c3e38bc1cf2 N88KNJ2.ROM
2ff07b8769367321128e03924af668a0 N88N.ROM
4f984e04a99d56c4cfe36115415d6eb8 N88.ROM
793f86784e5608352a5d7f03f03e0858 N88SUB.ROM

My core options :
q88_basic_mode = "N88 V2"
q88_cpu_clock = "8"
q88_pcg-8100 = "disabled"
q88_rumble = "enabled"
q88_save_to_disk_image = "disabled"
q88_screen_size = "full"
q88_sound_board = "OPNA"
q88_sub_cpu_mode = "2"
q88_use_fdc_wait = "enabled"

Will hear your succes later on.

Zering

@Folly When you say 'changed a few', do you mean that you've replaced the file entirely or that you've somehow edited the md5?

Edit : Got it! My N88.ROM was way off.
As a note, n88jisho.rom is still wrong on my end. But Final Crisis plays fine. That file seems to be optional.

Thanks again @Folly !

AdamBeGood

I've got a load of games to run tonight, with quite a bit of disk swapping. So the bios I have is good for something.

Do you think I should raise a post for my .hdi issue?

I could do without all the drive swapping, and I have to use Google Translate on my phone to find out what the game wants me to do!

Games I've got to run -

Dragon Slayer 2
Puyo Puyo
Popful Mail
Rusty
Warau Salesman (not recommended, this was when I was picking any game to try)

Only one I've had no joy with is Night Slave but that has Disks A to J so maybe needs to be installed? I think that might have to be run on .hdi (it looks quite fun so wonder if you guys want to try it?).

Zering

@AdamBeGood So there's only one game you can't get to run?

ecto

@Folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Folly That's excellent news!

Makes me wonder if CD and HD images can also be added together with FD images. All together in 1 file.

You can mount different types of images together using one cmd file (a little like a m3u file. Read here.

Zering

@AdamBeGood Night Slave.hdi boots fine on my end.
This one requires a low CPU Clock Multiplier. 10 seems fine.
As usual the text boxes are vacant.
The game looks utterly gorgeous (and I'm not talking about the scantily clad anime ladies).
The controls are messed up though, I can't select power ups with my joypad.

@ecto Thanks for sharing that post, I'm sure that will come in very handy as we get deeper in the PC98's catalogue!

AdamBeGood

@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@AdamBeGood So there's only one game you can't get to run?

From Floppy Disk, yep. But I can't get various games that I want on floppy disk, quite a few of them I can only find .hdi.

On the text issue, have you got a font.bmp in your BIOS folder? That is where my config file says to look for that.

I really want to play Night Slave, it is is annoying. I don't mind if I have to use the keyboard a bit. It was nice to get some games working today anyway.

.hdi would really open the catalogue up.

AdamBeGood

@ecto As you're a bit of a PC98 pro, I don't suppose you have ever encountered the issue I'm facing.

If I open any .hdi file, I get a "How many files (0-15)?" message and then whatever I put, I get dumped to a Basic prompt. I've found floppy disk images to be fine (.hdm and .d88). It would be good to know if you have any thoughts on this - but no worries if you're busy, etc.