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      AdamBeGood @Zering
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      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @AdamBeGood I'm trying Aquales now. It's the same developpers as Geograph Seal and Jumping Flash. Looks cool.
      The music cutting out I think has to do with the X68K which could only play so many sounds at one time. Some games like Chourensha disguise it much better than others.
      Did you try R+R in the end?

      Your sound theory could be it, that might make sense.

      Only to see if the game worked... I need to play R+R and Chourensha.

      I've heard good things about Etoile Princess also, just trying that now. I worry the Japanese content may be prohibitive, it's an Action RPG. Looks great though - massive sprites!

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        Zering @AdamBeGood
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        @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
        You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
        I'll try Etoile Princess now.

        Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

        @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

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          AdamBeGood @Zering
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          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
          You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
          I'll try Etoile Princess now.

          Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

          @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

          Castlevania worked fine for me - although I do get a Menu at the start, in which I have to select X68000 out of three options. I have the .dims in an M3U, and run the game through that, I don't know if that makes a difference?

          Oh, and I'll have a look at Aquales.

          Edit: I have Mad Stalker, I'll give it a go now.
          Further Edit: I love it! Once I'd worked out some moves: Down Down + Button for Dragon Punch, Forward Forward + Button for Slide Attack, Hadouken + Button for Gun.

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @AdamBeGood I figured it out in the end, I had to wait for a long musical cue to end.
            Those three options are internal X68000 sound, MT32 and SC55.
            That game is spectacular by the way, although unfortunately I've ran into a pretty bad glitch on the raft in stage 2 that forced me to reload.

            Edit : I knew you'd enjoy Mad Stalker! And the best thing is the other versions of the game are different enough to warrant a playthrough.
            Did you try Genocide?

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              AdamBeGood @Zering
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              @Zering I'll look at the other Mad Stalkers then!

              I've had a quick look at Genocide, but haven't played it through at all. It looks cool.

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                Folly
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                @Zering @AdamBeGood

                Have the PC-88 and PC-98 up and running.
                PC-88 was a pain in the ass with the BIOS.
                (searching, checking checksums, renaming)
                (still missing FONT2.ROM and FONT3.ROM, but it works without)
                Seems that the retropie docs are a bit outdated with the filenames.

                You can have the same problem with th PC-98 if you don't find the good files though. But I was fortunate enough.

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                  Zering @AdamBeGood
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                  @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

                  @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

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                    Folly @Zering
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                    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

                    On the PC-88 : 1942
                    On the PC-98 : Yume no Sei (13cm)

                    They were just a quick test.
                    Have to wait for the better ones. :)

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                      Zering @Folly
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                      @Folly The PC88 has this really strange game called Wibarm that is worth a look. Otherwise, Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 are fun!
                      On the PC98 I can't recommend Rude Breaker enough. Flame Zapper Kotsujin and Rusty are also very good.

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                        Folly @Zering
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                        @Zering
                        Thanks, will try these.

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                          Zering @Folly
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                          @Folly Having said this, Dragon Slayer 2's definitive version can be found on the MSX1 (the MSX2 is inferior, weirdly), with a smashing score by Yuzo Koshiro!

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                            Folly
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                            @Zering

                            wibarm asks for a data disk. how do i do that ?

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                              Zering @Folly
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                              @Folly if I recall, you need to go into subsystems and follow all the menus to load all the discs at once.

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                                Folly @Zering
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                                @Zering

                                I just have one disk.

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                                  Zering @Folly
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                                  @Folly I'll look into it now.

                                  Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

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                                    AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                    @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

                                    I'm playing the sequel now, I struggled not to take a shed load of hits in Genocide 1. It seemed rather attritional. I wouldn't rule out that I am playing it poorly though! Genocide 2 seems a lot better - lovely intro also. I've played the first couple of levels now.

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                                      Folly @Zering
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                                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @Folly I'll look into it now.

                                      Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

                                      Found that subsystem in retroarch menu.
                                      Just one back (z).
                                      Will have to search then.

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                                        Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                        @AdamBeGood Yeah I agree with you. The second one seems a lot more accessible, but both left me feeling as though I wasn't playing them right. However I really enjoy their presentation, the graphics and sound are astounding.

                                        @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

                                        Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

                                        Further edit : Sorted, it loads but there's a looooong wait. If your controller has a vibration function, the emulator uses the vibration to signal when it's accessing the disc drive. Neat.

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                                          Folly @Zering
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                                          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

                                          Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

                                          Will let you know how I get on.
                                          Will try some other games first to know the emulator a bit better.
                                          My pi4 goes pretty flawless !

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                                            Zering @Folly
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                                            @Folly Yes it's pretty impressive what the Pi 4 can do isn't it?
                                            By the way. When you get to Rude Breaker. There's a lot of slowdown unless you crank up the CPU Clock Multiplier. 24 did it for me.

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