Old Computer Appreciation Thread
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@zering I didn't know you could get a patched version so I downloaded a version which was three disks.
There were three patches for disks 1-3 so I applied those. Put disk 1 in and it asked for disk 0. I never had a disk 0.
So then I went hunting for a disk 0 and couldn't find one, I found one zip with system disk and then 4 data disks. But then I happened upon the 4 disk pre-patched version, and that was that.
Thanks for all the info. Does your version allow you to install the game? I didn't want to get into it, but if loading really bothers you, might be worth a fiddle!
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@adambegood It does, but I got stuck quickly when I tried fiddling with it.
Edit : I sorted the controls for the FM7... and they're the weirdest controls I ever came across.
It seems the FM7 was only capable of registering button presses, and not button releases. So when you press right, your character goes right, and does not stop going right until you press the key that's there to stop him. It's very strange and I get cold sweats just thinking about how achingly difficult the FM7 port of Ys must be.
The tapes take 8 minutes to load overall but I think there are some floppy games which mess has a driver for.Luckily loading tapes works the same way for the FM7 than it does for the MZ series so I've been able to play some MZ800 yesterday, but that method did not seem to work with the MZ2000, which appears to require a slightly different method.
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@zering So is there a stop button? Or do you have to press right again to stop? Sounds mad!
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@adambegood There is a stop button, but the movement is so twitchy and erratic it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
I don't think I'll get too much playtime out of that system.
So now I'm trying to play DOOM on the PC98 ^^@Folly Do you know how well MESS handles disk-swapping? I'm thinking it might be a viable option for those multi-disk X1 games.
Edit : Tested some FM7 disk games, they load instantly. Ys controls a lot better than I would have dared to imagine.
Edit 2 : And the FM77AV seems to respond to button releases, which makes Ys a joy to control on the system. Had some trouble with the BIOS, but other than that, easy setup.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood There is a stop button, but the movement is so twitchy and erratic it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
I don't think I'll get too much playtime out of that system.
So now I'm trying to play DOOM on the PC98 ^^@Folly Do you know how well MESS handles disk-swapping? I'm thinking it might be a viable option for those multi-disk X1 games.
Edit : Tested some FM7 disk games, they load instantly. Ys controls a lot better than I would have dared to imagine.
Edit 2 : And the FM77AV seems to respond to button releases, which makes Ys a joy to control on the system. Had some trouble with the BIOS, but other than that, easy setup.
I am just playing some PC-88 games. What is Doom like on 98? Is it much different to DOS?
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@adambegood Well it's a pain to even get into the game as you have to navigate through a series of Japanese DOS interfaces, and then even while using a .m3u I can't get the episodes to launch. From what I've seen in the menu it is very slow though.
What PC88 games are you playing?
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood Well it's a pain to even get into the game as you have to navigate through a series of Japanese DOS interfaces, and then even while using a .m3u I can't get the episodes to launch. From what I've seen in the menu it is very slow though.
What PC88 games are you playing?
Just trying some stuff out, had a look at Dinosaur but seems to be some issue with it, I'll try again.
A ridiculous strip show shooter called Seiko-chan SOS.
Super Pitfall
Going to have a proper go on Night Slave on x68000 in a mo.
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@adambegood You mean PC98?
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood You mean PC98?
100% I do. Sorry, so many new systems coming at me.
I have a problem. The C key should power up, in a Gradius style but it doesn't work for me.
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@adambegood Ah yes I noticed that earlier. Have you tried mapping C to something else?
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@zering How do I map in this one, is there a config file?
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@adambegood I'm pretty sure you can map input in Settings > Input.
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@zering I never knew! I always go to Controls and it didn't seem to be an option there.
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@adambegood I think the Input section overrides the Controls section in the quick menu.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood I think the Input section overrides the Controls section in the quick menu.
Any luck with C?Hmmm okay. Still no joy as yet, I am not sure how to proceed. I've spent too much time on this now, my child will be awake soon! I'll try Rusty and come back to this
Edit: Also is your sound jumpy? The C key thing is irritating, I don't think I will get far in the game without power ups. Must be a way around it.
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@adambegood I've only played the game for a few minutes the other day while trying to help you sort out your .hdi issues, I haven't noticed any sound jumpiness though. Are you sure you've set the game to the right CPU Clock Multiplier? 10 did it for me on this one.
I'll look into the controls in a bit, I'm having my daily SD Snatcher session. I think I'm close to the end.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood I've only played the game for a few minutes the other day while trying to help you sort out your .hdi issues, I haven't noticed any sound jumpiness though. Are you sure you've set the game to the right CPU Clock Multiplier? 10 did it for me on this one.
I'll look into the controls in a bit, I'm having my daily SD Snatcher session. I think I'm close to the end.
Ooo you're going great guns on that!
I've got it a bit higher than that, it is just the music is a little bit choppy. See if you noticed when you get to it.
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@adambegood The thing is if you set the CPUCM too high, it may result in slowdown and sound choppiness. You have to adjust for each game. Try 10 and see if there's any change. I just need to get back to JUNKER H.Q so I can save and quit before I try Night Slave again.
I am enjoying SD Snatcher a great deal indeed, although it's not without tedium (which is to be expected from an 8-bit RPG). The gameplay loop is addictive and I think the presentation is simply stunning ; i dare say it's the best looking and sounding game I've seen on the MSX2 along with Space Manbow.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood The thing is if you set the CPUCM too high, it may result in slowdown and sound choppiness. You have to adjust for each game. Try 10 and see if there's any change. I just need to get back to JUNKER H.Q so I can save and quit before I try Night Slave again.
I am enjoying SD Snatcher a great deal indeed, although it's not without tedium (which is to be expected from an 8-bit RPG). The gameplay loop is addictive and I think the presentation is simply stunning ; i dare say it's the best looking and sounding game I've seen on the MSX2 along with Space Manbow.
I will play SD Snatcher soon, sounds so good!
I'll move that setting back down a bit, you are probably right..
12 CPU, 16 RAM.. runs like a dream. Apart from the C thang.
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@adambegood Haha told you! ^^
I'll look into the C thing in a short bit.
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