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    Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

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      isidoro80
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      Hello what is name of bios file for arcade game sega model 1. I want play game arcade: arabian fight, f1 exaust, radrally. If i run this games with lr-mame i have error driver model1 not found.

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        jamrom2 @Folly
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        @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

        @jamrom2 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

        @folly I'm happy to test this as well...

        Do I need to remove the other mess emulators installed with the previous script and where do I put this to run it? \scripts?

        Yes, if you want to, that would be great.
        No need to de-install things.
        Just remove the old add-mamedev-systems.sh and replace it by the new one in :
        /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/supplementary

        I will give you a sign when I upload the next one !

        I just finished the logos for Epoch and Bambino so I'll post them to the other logo thread.

        Perfect !

        OK, I'll test this tomorrow.

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          DTEAM @isidoro80
          last edited by DTEAM

          @isidoro80 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

          Hello what is name of bios file for arcade game sega model 1. I want play game arcade: arabian fight, f1 exaust, radrally. If i run this games with lr-mame i have error driver model1 not found.

          For Model1 try this:
          model1io
          model1io2

          But for those games, you can use lr-fbneo. You need Sega system 32 , not model 1

          see: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19741/goodbye-fbalpha-welcome-fbneo/300

          According to that link some games work better with lr-mame2016

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          • jamrom2J
            jamrom2 @Folly
            last edited by jamrom2

            @folly

            Just tried the script... I get this. I'm not surprised I have an issue. My build seems to have issues with everything... I ask it to make a ham and cheese sandwich and I get a reply "with what?". Lol.

            error.jpg

            Is it asking for something I don't have? Your test script worked without an issue.

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @jamrom2
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              @jamrom2 You downloaded the file wrong, you need to click the 'Raw' button on the Github interface first. You downloaded the HTML page, which is - obviously - not a valid .sh script file.

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                isidoro80 @DTEAM
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                @dteam hello I put the bios in the folder / bios / mame and roms / arcade but still lr-mame gives me the same error. i can try the other emulatoelri but i prefer to use mame.

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                • jamrom2J
                  jamrom2 @mitu
                  last edited by

                  @mitu
                  yep... that was it...

                  So it's ham, bread, cheese, bread, mustard to make a Ham and Cheese... man...I'm bad at this.

                  Thanks as always for your all-seeing eye.

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                    Folly @isidoro80
                    last edited by Folly

                    @isidoro80 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                    @dteam hello I put the bios in the folder / bios / mame and roms / arcade but still lr-mame gives me the same error. i can try the other emulatoelri but i prefer to use mame.

                    You should always check your /dev/shm/runcommand.log after you tried to run a game.
                    If there isn't enough information then you have to press a key just before the game boots.
                    This will get you in the retropie-boot-dialog.
                    Choose the launch with verbose option.
                    Then check your /dev/shm/runcommand.log again after you tried.

                    I would advise you to make a new help thread for your problem.

                    Describe a bit better, what game, from what system, you want to run and, with which emulator.
                    It seems you mix a lot of things up.
                    Also describe if you want to do it the regular way or using this project.

                    Please also read the docs thoroughly :
                    https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Arcade/

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                      isidoro80 @Folly
                      last edited by isidoro80

                      maybe because I don't write well in English. I believe my problem is consistent with this post. I have installed lr-mame and would like to play the segamodel 1 games emulated by lr-mame. one of these is arabian fight and another is f1 exaust. I read the game log and despite having installed the bios in the correct directories I read as an error: model file not found. essentially the bios are missing. I have installed the bios Model1IO.zip, Model1IO2.zip, M1COMM.zip, HD44780_A00.zip but i can't play games. the question is this. can anyone play arcade model 1 games with le-mame?

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                      • jamrom2J
                        jamrom2 @isidoro80
                        last edited by

                        @isidoro80

                        Problem might not be the BIOS files... it might be that the ROMs you are using are not correct to the version of MAME you have loaded.

                        What version are the ROMs from? They have to match the version of MAME correctly in order to work. They change/merge ROMs often between version of MAME so everything must match.

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                          Folly @isidoro80
                          last edited by Folly

                          @isidoro80

                          I looked in the mame databases for you.
                          The games you want to run are "system drivers" and not found in the software databases (softwarelist hash tables).

                          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgt (Arabian Fight (World)):
                          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgtj (Arabian Fight (Japan)):
                          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgtu (Arabian Fight (US)):
                          mame0236_systems:Driver f1en (F1 Exhaust Note (World, Rev A)):
                          mame0236_systems:Driver f1enj (F1 Exhaust Note (Japan, Rev A)):
                          mame0236_systems:Driver f1enu (F1 Exhaust Note (US, Rev A)):
                          

                          This basically means that the game files are the bios files.
                          Confusing perhaps, but we don't put game-bios-files in the BIOS or BIOS/mame directory normally. We put them in the normal roms/*** directory.

                          According to this : https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/
                          Here you have a file category.ini (0.236) (always up to date) .
                          Inside, you have a file named arcade.ini and one mess.ini.
                          Here we can see that they are arcade ones, so you should be able to run them with lr-mame or mame.
                          You have to place the f1en.zip (.7z) and arabfgt.zip (.7z) in the regular rom directory :

                          • /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-libretro
                            or
                          • /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade

                          Technically speaking, then you are doing it just the normal/regular way.

                          Let me know if this works.

                          Here it works :
                          2021-10-16-094542_800x600_scrot-resized.png 2021-10-16-094623_800x600_scrot-resized.png

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                          • jamrom2J
                            jamrom2 @Folly
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                            Maybe I can help a little with this as well...

                            The best way to see what you are missing when it comes to MAME is to run native MAME on a PC.

                            Grab the ROMs from the correct MAME version number, run it in MAME and it will tell you what you need. Many of the missing files need to be added to the main MAME ROM folder (as Folly pointed out). They are no longer placed in the BIOS folder.

                            Great example is Gorf. It needs very specific VOX files to properly emulate the voice sounds in the game as they don't use "samples" any more. Without those VOX files, Gorf will not work and will flag an error. You then add those files to the MAME roms folder, and all is happy.

                            Having said that... Retropie did not run the most modern version of MAME, until this new script was added...so now you have to see what version of MAME this script pulls down and make sure that the games you are trying to run are supported by that version of MAME.

                            MAME has never been a quick dump and go emulator. It has always been this way, and requires things to be the correct version, in the correct place...and named correctly.

                            So try there before you go any further. You might be chasing this meanwhile, this version of MAME might not even support the game you are trying to run.

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                              Folly @jamrom2
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                              @jamrom2

                              Here you can learn/read everything about mame :
                              https://docs.mamedev.org/

                              Here you can read almost everything about the commandline options :
                              https://docs.mamedev.org/commandline/commandline-all.html

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                              • dankcushionsD
                                dankcushions Global Moderator
                                last edited by dankcushions

                                @jamrom2 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                Retropie did not run the most modern version of MAME, until this new script was added...

                                standard retropie has supported current, standalone MAME for over a year now: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/blob/master/scriptmodules/emulators/mame.sh (experimental packages)

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                                  Folly
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @DTEAM

                                  All changes up until now :


                                  (18-10-2021)

                                  • all slotdevice parameters converted to "extra options"
                                  • added lr-mess overlay config creation for .7z files
                                    (because roms are often in .7z format now)
                                  • improvements in menu : Download > Download/update

                                  (14-10-2021)

                                  • fix : first line of the CSV was not displayed in some menus
                                  • now the front-end uses the mame0236 database
                                  • added the possibility to install the available gamelists and media per system
                                    • should be future proof when adding new system on the google-drive
                                  • added the older and newer missing mame databases (now we have 0228 - 0236 )
                                  • add systems in the generator part script for : classich and gameandwatch
                                  • updated the handheld databases

                                  https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/0b3a8f2fa4588098411eda5b860cde8a9f00ac6c/00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-2v4.sh
                                  (right-click on raw to download)

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                                    Folly @DTEAM
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                    NEW EDIT: here: https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/

                                    you have a file category.ini (0.236) (always up to date) . Inside, you have a file named arcade.ini and one mess.ini. Everything is there to do the split.

                                    I have found a way to match these files with our data.
                                    And I think I can also match the files from http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/lista_mame.php .
                                    We could even add our handhelds/plug&play to it this way.
                                    After that I hope that I can implement it in the scripts so we can sort upon the "catagories".
                                    The file will look something like this :

                                    Driver 1292apvs (1292 Advanced Programmable Video System): *non-arcade
                                    Driver 1392apvs (1392 Advanced Programmable Video System): *non-arcade
                                    Driver 15lions (15 Lions (10166211, Queensland)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18w (18 Wheeler (set 1)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18w2 (18 Wheeler (set 2)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18wheelr (18 Wheeler (deluxe, Rev A)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18wheelro (18 Wheeler (deluxe)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18wheelrt (18 Wheeler (deluxe, Rev T)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18wheels (18 Wheeler (standard)): *arcade
                                    Driver 18wheelu (18 Wheeler (upright)): *arcade
                                    Driver 1942abl (1942 (Revision A, bootleg)): *arcade*bootlegs*cabinets
                                    

                                    The disadvantage is that "matching" takes some time to do.
                                    And I have to improve the category names.
                                    For instance, I want to convert "mess" into "non-arcade".
                                    So, for now, it's a slow development.

                                    Using grep we can sort on arcade , for example :
                                    grep_arcade.png

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                                      DTEAM @Folly
                                      last edited by

                                      @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                      I have found a way to match these files with our data.

                                      This is really cool!!

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                                        Folly @DTEAM
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @dteam

                                        I am finished with the matching.
                                        After converting the files, so it would contain only the systems, I matched the files against our database.
                                        It takes about 3 hours to build.

                                        I uploaded the file to github :
                                        https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/main/00-databases-00/mame/mame0236_systems_sorted_info

                                        For now something to check and experiment with.

                                        The categories that I added are :
                                        all_in1
                                        arcade
                                        ball-and-paddle
                                        board-game
                                        bootlegs
                                        cabinets
                                        calculator
                                        casino
                                        classich
                                        climbing
                                        clones-arcade
                                        computer-graphic-workstation
                                        computer
                                        digital-simulator
                                        driving
                                        fighter
                                        freeplay
                                        game-console
                                        gameandwatch
                                        handheld
                                        jakks
                                        konamih
                                        maze
                                        mechanical-arcade
                                        medal-game
                                        medical-equipment
                                        misc
                                        monochrome
                                        multi-game
                                        non-arcade
                                        screenless
                                        tigerh
                                        tigerrz

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                                          DTEAM @Folly
                                          last edited by DTEAM

                                          @folly

                                          WOW !!! A lot of work ! Some of those are not playable. Will you keep them (like mechanical-arcade, medical-equipment, ball-and-paddle, board-game, etc.) ?

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                                            Folly @DTEAM
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            @dteam

                                            I like the idea that we now can see what which system is and that the most data is included.

                                            I think it's not a problem that non-working systems are in there because we should be able to sort on it, if I add it from the ini files.
                                            If I am wrong, I can always remove some entry's.

                                            I did not yet add the info of these ini files :
                                            arcade_BIOS
                                            arcade_NOBIOS
                                            CHD (no BIOS)
                                            CHD Working
                                            Non Bootlegs
                                            Non Mechanical Arcade
                                            Not Working Arcade
                                            Originals Arcade
                                            Players
                                            resolution
                                            Working Arcade Clean
                                            Working Arcade

                                            This is the only bash code I used to add the information to the existing data file,
                                            using the simple .ini txt files containing the systems per category that are with or without windows line-endings :

                                            for file in $(ls -r *.ini);do echo busy with $file;cat $file |sed 's/\r//g'|while read line;do grep -i "Driver $line " mame0236_systems_sorted_info|sed -i "s/Driver $line .*\:/&*$(basename $file .ini)/" mame0236_systems_sorted_info ;done;done
                                            sed -i 's/)\:/)\: /g' mame0236_systems_sorted_info
                                            
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