Windows 95!

tyreal90

@mattrixk
Oh if I had it running I'd be calling into work sick by now hahaha I just have it at the cusp of running but the operating system boots and is mostly stable.

edmaul69

here is a link for the s3 graphics drivers. would love to hear which ones you get working. from everything i read on several threads the trio64 drivers were supposed to work. i havent installed windows 95 yet to test.

http://www.s3graphics.com/en/drivers/legacy_software_archive.aspxtyreal90

edmaul69

nevermind. links started working

hooperre

I've been working on this a bit myself, not physically yet, just kind of compiling what I think I'll need for it. If I can point you in the direction of some guys/gals who may be able to help...

http://www.vogons.org/viewforum.php?f=33 -- Guessing you've found the DosBox forums already as that guide looks vaguely familiar.

If you PM the user dada, he is currently compiling a new Win95 DosBox guide as I have contacted him a couple times. I think he may be able to provide assistance.

The user Jorpho I would guess invented DosBox. Only reason I say so is that he/she responds to everything that is posted.

I think I read something that said Win95 isn't officially supported by DosBox though, so not sure how much help they would offer.

Cheers. I'll be keeping up and offering any help I can!

edmaul69

@tyreal90 i already have the trio 64v drivers running in windows 3.11 . i am testing other drivers now

edmaul69

@tyreal90 I also forgot. to install drivers you might have to exit windows to dos and in the windows directory type setup

edmaul69

trio 3d drivers work on windows 3.11. i dont have windows 95 to test savage3d. Virge/trio 3d was the first 3d accelerator so it might work for some of your games. trio 3d is the newest version of virge

tyreal90

@edmaul69

Excellent. I will try these when I get off of work today at 6:30pm MST.

Will update with results tonight! and thank you again for the help!

edmaul69

@tyreal90 no problem. I am hopeful for some of the better 3d games to work on windows 95. I have a ton of games on cd i want to try to get working. Now that you have posted another way to get win95 setup i am going to have to try to install it.

edmaul69

I tried the trio 3d/2x driver and that did not work on win 3.11 😞 So it looks like on the s3 drivers site trio 3d (365drv) is the newest driver i can get to work on win 3.11. I would try savage 3d (380drv), trio 3d/2x (362drv), pro savage (370drv) and virge/dx-gx (375drv) drivers and see if you can get any of those working.

tyreal90

@edmaul69 said in Windows 95!:

(365drv) is the newest driver i can

alright will do. The website keeps coming in and out of being available. I am trying to nab all the drivers as once.

edmaul69

@tyreal90 it always fails the first time. Back out and try again and it works.

tyreal90

ok more bad news. All of those drivers flew past the win95. It didn't recognize any of them. How do I install from MS-Dos? I'm also going to see if I can resurrect a PCI bus emulator off the dosbox config file.

edmaul69

@tyreal90 so 365drv didnt work? So if you can exit windows 95 to dos prompt you would go into windows folder if you arent already there and type setup. It should take you into windows setup. Then go and change the video driver. Im not 100% positive you can do this in windows 95. But if you have "exit" in your .sh file you use from emulationstation to boot win 95 you need to remove the exit command. Otherwise it will kick you back to emulationstation instead of dos. Then if you need to get back to emulationstation type exit.

tyreal90

Alright, I have a brilliant idea....

http://ykhwong.x-y.net/

The above site has the source code for dosbox daum. What if we compiled it to run on the raspberry pi? It has the necessary changes to emulate a voodoo graphics card with a PCI slot and it does opengl and 3dfx emulation. Do you know of any tweaks that were made to the raspberry pi version to make it run faster? This is the reason why I can play Directx games on the pc side and not the PI side. Unless there is a large tweak that allows dosbox to run faster on pi then if we don't sacrifice too much speed this will be perfect. Also, we've been working hard on this but I wanted to show you some success I had tonight. Presenting.... heroes 2 of might and magic!!!

tyreal90

@edmaul69

I can get to the msdos prompt but I do not see a setup in my windows folder. I will try again tomorrow but thank you for all the help. You should go through the windows instruction so that we can both experiment at once. I was able to make a .vhd instead of a .img file using dosbox daum and therefore, I can open the drive up on windows 10 to pop files in and out. That was my only change from the instructions.

edmaul69

@tyreal90 first question, in /opt/retropie/configs/pc/dosbox-SVN.conf do you have it set to:

machine=svga_s3

i wanted to set up win 95 today but i was installing lr-mess2016 on my pi and it took 8 hours to do. I am hopefully going to try to set this up tomorrow. Have you tried to install the s3 drivers while on a pc then transferred over?i know that the trio 64v and trio 3d drivers work in dosbox on the pi as i installed them on both the pc and on the pi so we should be able to get them loaded on windows 95. If we can get support for voodoo that would be awesome.

edmaul69

@tyreal90 so i have a 2gb image already made with windows 95 on it. I cannot figure out how to get it to run in dosbox. On my pc if i use:

Imgmount c c:\windows95.img -t hdd -fs fat

And change to the windows directory and type win to start windows i get this:

This version of windows does not run on MS-DOS 7.00 or earlier. I am not sure how to get it to boot in dosbox.

backstander

@edmaul69

This version of windows does not run on MS-DOS 7.00 or earlier.

What does it say at the Dosbox command prompt when you type in ver ?

Update
I think you can change the "version" that Dosbox reports:
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/VER

tyreal90

@edmaul69

My mount command is:

Imgmount 2 pathforfile.img -t hdd -size 512,63,128,520 -fs none

When I want to boot to windows 95 I just type: boot -l c

Try that and let me know if it works. Dosbox on a windows machine usually views its own folder as a path that doesn't need explanation so mine just has windows95.vhd in the path part because I keep the file in my dosbox folder (windows 10).

I checked because it was a good suggestion but it is already on machine=svga_s3.

I remade the image without the PCI and Voodoo drivers clunking it up and hopefully I may have more luck with that clean install.