FBA: Some games requiring accessing RGUI menu to run full speed
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@pjft when you say they've "loaded", are you checking the menu or the relevant effect?
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@dankcushions effect. Then menu for sanity checking. I have FBA CPU overclock set to 130, but I think that's a default?
I know that if I turn it off the slowdown immediately becomes noticeable.
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Guys, not sure I'm completely up with what you're saying here. Not long ago I posted a thread on the retropie reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/7bouog/strikers_ii_iii_run_extremely_slowly_in_fba_i_can/
Someone just tried to replicate my issue, with 'success'
Updated lr-fbalpha via source, no dice :/
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@jenslyn87 It sounds like we're having the same problem. While the options are saved and loaded properly (or at least appear to when accessing the RGUI menu), if something is not fiddled with, the fast mode does not seem to be active, and thus the game runs slow.
I did not find a solution with fba. I did try updating fba to the latest. What I ended up doing was using MAME 2003 for these games, and the performance was much better.
Please keep me posted if you find a solution. Thanks!
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Never understood if this was a known bug or if it's really supposed to work on my end? I just tried updating fba and retroarch, but it didn't help :(
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@barbudreadmon is the maintainer of lr-fbalpha so I leave it to their discretion as to whether this an issue or not. given that so many people are logging it i think it must be (i can't check right now)! so unless @barbudreadmon says otherwise, I think it should be logged: https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/issues
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I changed a few things in fbalpha, including how this speedhack is handled (now it is in dipswitches for those games, be aware that dipswitches are only applied at boot and, since my last commit, at restart of a game). Let me know if it fix your issue.
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@barbudreadmon Thanks, appreciate it! Does this mean I should try to update FBA and see if the problem has now been fixed?
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@barbudreadmon Fantastic! I updated and saw the new 'speed hack' option. Changed it to 'yes', and it worked like you said! So, this solved my issue at least. I imagine it'll so for others too. Thank you!
@jell check out this new solution. I'm sure it'll work for you too. The Strikers games do run better in FBA than in MAME from my experience, so this is great for a Strikers fan :)
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Thanks for the fix and update! Strikers games are working great now, gotta agree it's better on FBA than MAME!
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@jell No problem! If you find other games that run slow on FBA, you can try them now too. I believe the setting helped me with at least a few others games as well:)
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@jenslyn87 Yes, I remember switching several over to MAME 2003, but can't remember all of the ones I did that for. One I did try, and left with MAME 2003, was soldivid, since the speedhack broke the music :) If you come across any other ones, please let me know.
Thanks again!
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@jell said in FBA: Some games requiring accessing RGUI menu to run full speed:
@jenslyn87 Yes, I remember switching several over to MAME 2003, but can't remember all of the ones I did that for. One I did try, and left with MAME 2003, was soldivid, since the speedhack broke the music :) If you come across any other ones, please let me know.
Thanks again!
You got me curious and i tried this game on mame2003 (having the music running fine on this game consume quite a lot of resources, so i was curious on how they dealt with it). Soldivid's music also seems to be broken in mame2003, but in a different way.
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@barbudreadmon That's super interesting. I initially picked up the rpi with retropie in mind, thinking the gaming would be the highlight, but the tinkering has been much more interesting, especially the emulation.
Someday I hope to contribute to the emulation, just have a ton more to learn, and finding the time is tough these days :) I did start going through an online tutorial though.
Thanks again for your help with this. The fact you can make all this work so well is incredible.
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Some games like Metal Slug 2 ran slow on the Neo Geo ORIGINAL HARDWARE. Overclocking is the only way those games will run smooth. Other games simply don't run well in FBA. Try to use MAME for those games.
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@jell i worked on a fix for the speedhack, my last commit allows me to play soldivid at full speed without breaking music on my pi3@1.3Ghz, let me know how it turns out on your pi.
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@barbudreadmon Works great now, music and all! My CPU is not overclocked at all, although my GPU is slightly overclocked, which I think doesn't make a difference here.
Curious, although it might be over my head, how'd you do it? Did looking at the mame2003 give you ideas?
Anyways, amazing work, thank you so much!
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@jell said in FBA: Some games requiring accessing RGUI menu to run full speed:
Curious, although it might be over my head, how'd you do it? Did looking at the mame2003 give you ideas?
Nope, i looked at the suprnova speedhack on the sh2 cpu in fbalpha, experimented with it, ended up writing my own based on it because i couldn't find the right settings with this one, tinkered with values again, and finally figured out values that seemed to work. Basically what i'm doing here is asking the emulated cpu to do less things, so the raspberry can cope with the charge.
The good news is that it gave me some ideas, perhaps i'll be able to do similar things on other system struggling on the pi.
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@barbudreadmon
hello there, as far as i understand i have to update fba and then change something in deepswitch menu (my english might be not so good ;) )
but i cannot enter dipswitch menu in strikers III (im holding start and nothing happend). i've tried via RGUI to start TEST MENU but inside there i couldn't find anything also. can someone please help ?
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@xflesk I don't know what you are trying to do by holding start or starting "TEST MENU" (What is that ?), but dipswitches in fbalpha are in core options, which are at RGUI > Quick Menu > Options, the speedhack dipswitch should be at the bottom of the list for those games.
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