Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games

barbudreadmon

@Darksavior except if retropie build script is totally ignoring my fbalpha makefile, i think the relevant part in what you wrote is -funroll-loops -funswitch-loops :

-ftree-vectorize is included in -O3, which is the fbalpha default
afaik -funsafe-math-optimizations should only have an impact on games using a lot of arythmetic function, it shouldn't be the case for cps3 (on a sidenote, raiden2 uses them a lot)

Thanks for the information, i'll do some tests and if those flags are interesting speed-wise, i'll add them to default fbalpha cflags.

Edit : actually -funswitch-loops is also part of -O3, meaning only -funroll-loops is relevant.
Edit2 : i've been thinking for some time that this change is the culprit, so having a speedup with -funroll-loops makes a lot of sense actually.

barbudreadmon

Do you guys have rewind disabled for cps3 ? While it was kinda ok to let it enabled previously, recent updates won't allow it anymore speedwise.

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon It's disabled by default so it's not enabled for me.

barbudreadmon

@Darksavior -funroll-loops is now part of the fbalpha makefile.

barbudreadmon

@Darksavior Another commit was applied to the fbalpha cps3 codebase today, it appears part of the jojoba combo meter fix could be optimized. Let me know if the slowdowns still happen.

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon No real change on the pi3b nonplus at 1300. SF3 dips to 59.x most of the time especially when doing a super. Funny, fba2012 isn't a stable 60fps either but it dips a lot less. Maybe this is the best it can be. Not even my pi3b+ at 1450 gets a stable 60fps in lr-fbalpha.

barbudreadmon

@Darksavior cps3 refresh rate is actually 59.583393 (see http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=sfiii&lang=en), so not having a stable 60fps is actually normal behavior.

Darksavior

@barbudreadmon That explains it. So at this point I just want no static, so I connected it to my main 4k tv at 1080p with audio instead of the 1440x900 monitor to test. Supers still get static and in one instance had a drop to 58fps but fba2012 is way more stable in the fps and no severe slowdowns when doing supers. As long as people have a viable alternative I'd consider this "done".

Pi3b at 1300 users should use 2012. Pi3b+ users are fine.

RedBatman

@Darksavior said in Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games:

@barbudreadmon That explains it. So at this point I just want no static, so I connected it to my main 4k tv at 1080p with audio instead of the 1440x900 monitor to test. Supers still get static and in one instance had a drop to 58fps but fba2012 is way more stable in the fps and no severe slowdowns when doing supers. As long as people have a viable alternative I'd consider this "done".

Pi3b at 1300 users should use 2012. Pi3b+ users are fine.

Yeah I myself tried the binary update and while it was a little better there was still noticeable audio lag, especially in Street Fighter 3 2nd Impact.

grant2258

check your deviation from ra youll need logging on

[INFO] Saved core options file to "C:\msys64\usr\local\bin\retroarch-core-options.cfg"
[INFO] [Video]: Average monitor Hz: 60.006001 Hz. (1.540 % frame time deviation, based on 2048 last samples).
[INFO] [Video]: Average monitor Hz: 60.006001 Hz. (1.540 % frame time deviation, based on 2048 last samples).

see if its a sound/video sync issue i dont have the romset from fba but it could be this as well

pjft

@RedBatman did you end up confirming whether the latest code addresses the issue? I've been wanting to update lr-fbalpha but have held off since you opened this.

barbudreadmon

@pjft There were some improvement speedwise, however it appears there are some slowdowns depending on your overclocking. It might be 100% ok on retropie at 1350mhz, i can't confirm since i don't use retropie (i'm using a highly customized linux and not debian-based setup) and it's running fine on mine at a lower frequency.

Anyway i don't intend to look more into this, because you already have several option to solve this if you don't want to stay forever at an older commit :

using a higher overclocking value (1350 might be ok).
using a frameskip of 1 in core options would most likely solve this issue
a rpi3b+ is only 35$ and it has been reported to solve the issue.
using an old core for those games (fba2012 ?), however you won't benefit from the fixes to the cps3 driver (jojoba combo meter and some graphical glitches due to tile priority issues)

pjft

@barbudreadmon by all means, that sounds fair. I have a 3B+, but it wasn't clear to me whether it would be working fine there.

I'll test it out when I'm back. I was mostly considering upgrading as I noticed that the high scores for Mars Matrix weren't saving in the build I was running. PGM bios, I think.

Thanks for the good work.

barbudreadmon

@pjft said in Retroarch 1.7.5 causing FPS drops for CPS 3 games:

I noticed that the high scores for Mars Matrix weren't saving in the build I was running

Might be an old build or a missing entry in your hiscore.dat then. That's a cps2 game and hiscores should work in cps2 games (i added hiscore support to cps1/cps2 in june 2018).

Also, be careful about romsets after updating : https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19741/new-fb-alpha-libretro-pre-v0-2-97-44

pjft

@barbudreadmon Sounds great. I'll look into it when I'm back - traveling for work this week.

Many thanks, and keep up the great work!