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    • UDb23U
      UDb23 @GreenHawk84
      last edited by

      @GreenHawk84 I'd also check Mame2003plus.
      In any case you need to update from source to get the latest version.

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      • GreenHawk84G
        GreenHawk84 @UDb23
        last edited by

        @UDb23 That was my next question. So the cores that come with the fresh Retropie 4.4 are not the latest? Aren't my cores updated when I use the Retropie Setup script to "Update all packages"?

        I want to get on the right track for having the latest and greatest versions on my setup.

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        • UDb23U
          UDb23 @GreenHawk84
          last edited by

          @GreenHawk84 Fresh install+update all packages you'll only get latest final (non beta) versions (same as update from binary afaik).
          Mame2003plus and FBA's latest versions, by updating from source, provide a lot of new features and new games support. Both are being updated quite often.

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          • BuZzB
            BuZz administrators @UDb23
            last edited by

            @UDb23 the binaries were updated only a few weeks ago.

            To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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            • UDb23U
              UDb23 @BuZz
              last edited by

              @BuZz Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

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              • sirhenrythe5thS
                sirhenrythe5th @UDb23
                last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                What is about this "Good Bye FinalBurn Alpha - welcome FB Neo" over there at libretro.com?
                Achievements, much improved sound quality (i.e. Q-Sound now crystal clear), more games supported, faster emulation,...

                Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator @sirhenrythe5th
                  last edited by

                  @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                  Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

                  It's already on the Pi, as lr-fbalpha. It will be renamed as lr-fbneo shortly, but otherwise the code is just a continuation of the fbalpha project. There are more details in the libretro.com forum post, which outlines the reasons for the name change.

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                  • sirhenrythe5thS
                    sirhenrythe5th @mitu
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                    @mitu thanks once more mitu!!!

                    So it is the version we are talking here in this thread?
                    Then i allready use it for NeoGeo and some more games that dont work with AdvanceMame.

                    I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                    But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                    I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                    Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

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                      barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
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                      @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                      I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                      There should be no change to CPS3.

                      @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                      the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst

                      YM2151 is on the todo list, however i can't reproduce your issue, there might be something else causing it.

                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
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                        @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                        But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                        I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                        Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

                        I asked around and i confirm there was no change in sound quality for raidendx, so there are only a few possibilities :

                        • You were previously using raidendx (or clone) and now you are using r2dx_v33 (or clone), the later is a cheap knock-off of the first with awfully bad sound (they removed 2 sound related boards out of the 3 the game originally had, the samplerate went down to 7742hz), btw both versions are mono.
                        • There is some issue with your setup, it might be a lot of things, maybe your setup dislike this game's refresh rate (which is 55.407801Hz) ?
                        • Your hardware is struggling (maybe the game eats more cpu now), try setting frameskip to 1 and let me know if it solves the cracklings.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        • sirhenrythe5thS
                          sirhenrythe5th @barbudreadmon
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                          @barbudreadmon thank you very much for your help!

                          I use raidendx.zip, so i guess the parent rom of this game.
                          I hope i dont have any issues with my setup, i really do anything to keep it clean and running (daily updates of OS and, as far as available, retropie-setup/all installed packages) no overclocking, no changing of sensible parameters and so on).

                          In the end i have this this issue only with RaidenDX and once.
                          I will check it again in the evening when i am home again, i had the same sound experience a couple of days ago with a game in AdvanceMame.
                          In this case i solved the problem: i use "auto normalize" in the audio-settings of AdvanceMame (which is a great option imo! ;) ) and in this specific case the volume was set to +18 which had the same crackling sound as result.

                          Now i think maybe i jumped too much between AdvanceMame and FBA so that the audio-mixer got a bit fuzzy.
                          I will check later as mentioned, maybe it was just a kind of loading error concerning the audio drivers.

                          Thx a lot again!!!

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                          • sirhenrythe5thS
                            sirhenrythe5th
                            last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                            OK, no more issues :D

                            Yesterday i updated to 4.4.13 and within this update FBAlpha has been upgraded to FBNeo.
                            Took quite a long time, but was worth it indeed.
                            No more sound-issues with RaidenDX and i am really impressed about the Performance update.
                            NeoGeo in special is awesome now!!!

                            Maybe one thing should be mentioned: after the update you have to copy everything from "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fba" to "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fbneo" to keep all the highscores and BIOS-Setups of NEOGEO.

                            Thanks a lot, great job!

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                            • BuZzB
                              BuZz administrators @sirhenrythe5th
                              last edited by BuZz

                              @sirhenrythe5th you may have installed it before I had the new binaries built. Should be able to install without building now on RPI.

                              Regarding folders. yeah, sorry - some changed. Also core options will need to be adjusted if you customised them before as old settings are not renamed.

                              To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                              • sirhenrythe5thS
                                sirhenrythe5th @BuZz
                                last edited by

                                @BuZz well, in RGUI there was 0.2.97.44. displayed indeed.
                                But i had no update of FBA in the near past that took so Long (about 40 min.) and what i had as result...no, that is really a difference experience with "FBANeo".
                                As mentioned i.e. NEOGEO is soooo awesome now!
                                I did not realize that it did run with a small handbrake before, love to test every single game with this enhanced engine.

                                Yep, i had to remap my buttons again too, you are right.
                                The core-overrides wird gone too.

                                Great update! , much appreciated!!!

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                                  hermit
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                                  sorry if I insist, but now the core is for version 0.2.97.44 or 0.2.97.43? thank you

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                                  • mituM
                                    mitu Global Moderator @hermit
                                    last edited by mitu

                                    @hermit The current labeled version is 0.2.97.44.

                                    EDIT: as the first post in the topic mentions, it's still not officially released, still a WIP.

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                                    • sirhenrythe5thS
                                      sirhenrythe5th
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                                      Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?
                                      I wanted to test it yesterday, but it ends in a black screen after the character selection.

                                      It doesn not really matter, the update is great anyhow!

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                                      • mituM
                                        mitu Global Moderator @sirhenrythe5th
                                        last edited by

                                        @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                                        Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?

                                        I think there was a recent an issue in the Issue tracker about it - https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/issues/30 -, but it seems it has been solved. Try updating from source and starting again the game.

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                                        • sirhenrythe5thS
                                          sirhenrythe5th
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                                          Of course you were right mitu, as always :)
                                          Gosh, also this game runs very fine now! thumbsup

                                          Thanks again, your help is much aprecciated!

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                                            barbudreadmon
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                                            I updated the first post and title

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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