Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo

GreenHawk84

@UDb23 That was my next question. So the cores that come with the fresh Retropie 4.4 are not the latest? Aren't my cores updated when I use the Retropie Setup script to "Update all packages"?

I want to get on the right track for having the latest and greatest versions on my setup.

UDb23

@GreenHawk84 Fresh install+update all packages you'll only get latest final (non beta) versions (same as update from binary afaik).
Mame2003plus and FBA's latest versions, by updating from source, provide a lot of new features and new games support. Both are being updated quite often.

BuZz

@UDb23 the binaries were updated only a few weeks ago.

UDb23

@BuZz Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

sirhenrythe5th

What is about this "Good Bye FinalBurn Alpha - welcome FB Neo" over there at libretro.com?
Achievements, much improved sound quality (i.e. Q-Sound now crystal clear), more games supported, faster emulation,...

Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

mitu

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

It's already on the Pi, as lr-fbalpha. It will be renamed as lr-fbneo shortly, but otherwise the code is just a continuation of the fbalpha project. There are more details in the libretro.com forum post, which outlines the reasons for the name change.

sirhenrythe5th

@mitu thanks once more mitu!!!

So it is the version we are talking here in this thread?
Then i allready use it for NeoGeo and some more games that dont work with AdvanceMame.

I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

barbudreadmon

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

There should be no change to CPS3.

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst

YM2151 is on the todo list, however i can't reproduce your issue, there might be something else causing it.

barbudreadmon

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

I asked around and i confirm there was no change in sound quality for raidendx, so there are only a few possibilities :

You were previously using raidendx (or clone) and now you are using r2dx_v33 (or clone), the later is a cheap knock-off of the first with awfully bad sound (they removed 2 sound related boards out of the 3 the game originally had, the samplerate went down to 7742hz), btw both versions are mono.
There is some issue with your setup, it might be a lot of things, maybe your setup dislike this game's refresh rate (which is 55.407801Hz) ?
Your hardware is struggling (maybe the game eats more cpu now), try setting frameskip to 1 and let me know if it solves the cracklings.

sirhenrythe5th

@barbudreadmon thank you very much for your help!

I use raidendx.zip, so i guess the parent rom of this game.
I hope i dont have any issues with my setup, i really do anything to keep it clean and running (daily updates of OS and, as far as available, retropie-setup/all installed packages) no overclocking, no changing of sensible parameters and so on).

In the end i have this this issue only with RaidenDX and once.
I will check it again in the evening when i am home again, i had the same sound experience a couple of days ago with a game in AdvanceMame.
In this case i solved the problem: i use "auto normalize" in the audio-settings of AdvanceMame (which is a great option imo! ;) ) and in this specific case the volume was set to +18 which had the same crackling sound as result.

Now i think maybe i jumped too much between AdvanceMame and FBA so that the audio-mixer got a bit fuzzy.
I will check later as mentioned, maybe it was just a kind of loading error concerning the audio drivers.

Thx a lot again!!!

sirhenrythe5th

OK, no more issues :D

Yesterday i updated to 4.4.13 and within this update FBAlpha has been upgraded to FBNeo.
Took quite a long time, but was worth it indeed.
No more sound-issues with RaidenDX and i am really impressed about the Performance update.
NeoGeo in special is awesome now!!!

Maybe one thing should be mentioned: after the update you have to copy everything from "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fba" to "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fbneo" to keep all the highscores and BIOS-Setups of NEOGEO.

Thanks a lot, great job!

BuZz

@sirhenrythe5th you may have installed it before I had the new binaries built. Should be able to install without building now on RPI.

Regarding folders. yeah, sorry - some changed. Also core options will need to be adjusted if you customised them before as old settings are not renamed.

sirhenrythe5th

@BuZz well, in RGUI there was 0.2.97.44. displayed indeed.
But i had no update of FBA in the near past that took so Long (about 40 min.) and what i had as result...no, that is really a difference experience with "FBANeo".
As mentioned i.e. NEOGEO is soooo awesome now!
I did not realize that it did run with a small handbrake before, love to test every single game with this enhanced engine.

Yep, i had to remap my buttons again too, you are right.
The core-overrides wird gone too.

Great update! , much appreciated!!!

hermit

sorry if I insist, but now the core is for version 0.2.97.44 or 0.2.97.43? thank you

mitu

@hermit The current labeled version is 0.2.97.44.

EDIT: as the first post in the topic mentions, it's still not officially released, still a WIP.

sirhenrythe5th

Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?
I wanted to test it yesterday, but it ends in a black screen after the character selection.

It doesn not really matter, the update is great anyhow!

mitu

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

Anyone else has recognized issues with IGS "Demon Front" since the update to FBNeo?

I think there was a recent an issue in the Issue tracker about it - https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/issues/30 -, but it seems it has been solved. Try updating from source and starting again the game.

sirhenrythe5th

Of course you were right mitu, as always :)
Gosh, also this game runs very fine now! thumbsup

Thanks again, your help is much aprecciated!

barbudreadmon

I updated the first post and title

omen_peter

Hi all.

Setup details in my signature. Happy to move this to the help section if it suits better.

I was just after some clarification. I currently use the .43 fba and neogeo romset (I have them as separate systems on my pi) and use lr-fbalpha as my default emulator. From reading this thread I understand that if I was to update my RetroPie setup script today my lr-fbalpha would be updated to lr-fbneo (automatically? Or do I need to then update the lr-fbaplha emulator?).

So let's assume I now have lr-fbneo. How does this emulator treat my .43 romset? As in, will the games that worked before still work? Will some now not work? Will none of them work at all??

I see from above comments that not updating lr-fbneo is an option (although not recommended), but you wouldn't believe how long it took me to get around to sorting out my current fba/neogeo setup, and just would like to know how updating will affect my setup (and maybe others in the same situation) and if I will make more work for myself by updating.

Thanks for reading!

P.S. The thread also mentions MAME. I use the .78 romset with lr-mame2003. I assume this change doesn't affect that too?