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    • UDb23U
      UDb23 @barbudreadmon
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      @barbudreadmon Will we get a .44 final release for Xmas ? ;-)

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        barbudreadmon @UDb23
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        @UDb23 Don't ask for an ETA, things will be ready when they'll be ready, and most people are busy in december. I don't think there will be an official release as long as the midway drivers aren't perfect (or almost), and i think there is still quite some work to do on them.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          Menion
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          Hi
          The current FB Alpha libretro that we get from binary source in retropie-setup 4.4 (updated) is this new pre-v0.2.97.44? I am asking because according to the changelog some new games have been added, like Mortal Kombat. I have a verified rom set (verified against 0.2.97.44 dat file) but it won't load at all

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            barbudreadmon @Menion
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            @Menion said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

            The current FB Alpha libretro that we get from binary source in retropie-setup 4.4 (updated) is this new pre-v0.2.97.44? I am asking because according to the changelog some new games have been added, like Mortal Kombat. I have a verified rom set (verified against 0.2.97.44 dat file) but it won't load at all

            I have no idea what the pre-packaged version from retropie-setup is, however i would recommend building from sources and picking the dat from https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/blob/master/dats/FB Alpha (ClrMame Pro XML%2C Arcade only).dat at the same time, so that you can be sure to have a romset matching your fbalpha version (as stated above, there are changes every few day/week).

            On a sidenote, the midway mk/kinst drivers still need a lot of polishing in fbalpha, and considering one of the cpu interpreter needs a major rewrite, it might take a long time before it's at the level of other fbalpha drivers, you'll clearly have better emulation with mame2003-plus for those games.

            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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              barbudreadmon
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              @BuZz You might be interested in updating your build script, there are specific instructions to build the dynarec which allows to play killer instinct at full speed on x86_64, see bottom of https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha

              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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              • BuZzB
                BuZz administrators @barbudreadmon
                last edited by

                @barbudreadmon Thanks. Have made the change.

                To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                  johnodon
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                  Look at what I did Mom!

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                    hermit
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                    has the 0.2.97.44 version been released? thanks

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                    • GreenHawk84G
                      GreenHawk84
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                      Hello,

                      Just trying to understand this thread. I just installed Stretch on 3B+ fresh, and that comes with FBAlpha. Is that the "best" core of choice these days or should I be looking for FBAlpha2018? Looking for max compatibility and performance as usual.

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                      • UDb23U
                        UDb23 @GreenHawk84
                        last edited by

                        @GreenHawk84 I'd also check Mame2003plus.
                        In any case you need to update from source to get the latest version.

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                        • GreenHawk84G
                          GreenHawk84 @UDb23
                          last edited by

                          @UDb23 That was my next question. So the cores that come with the fresh Retropie 4.4 are not the latest? Aren't my cores updated when I use the Retropie Setup script to "Update all packages"?

                          I want to get on the right track for having the latest and greatest versions on my setup.

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                          • UDb23U
                            UDb23 @GreenHawk84
                            last edited by

                            @GreenHawk84 Fresh install+update all packages you'll only get latest final (non beta) versions (same as update from binary afaik).
                            Mame2003plus and FBA's latest versions, by updating from source, provide a lot of new features and new games support. Both are being updated quite often.

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                              BuZz administrators @UDb23
                              last edited by

                              @UDb23 the binaries were updated only a few weeks ago.

                              To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                              • UDb23U
                                UDb23 @BuZz
                                last edited by

                                @BuZz Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

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                                • sirhenrythe5thS
                                  sirhenrythe5th @UDb23
                                  last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                                  What is about this "Good Bye FinalBurn Alpha - welcome FB Neo" over there at libretro.com?
                                  Achievements, much improved sound quality (i.e. Q-Sound now crystal clear), more games supported, faster emulation,...

                                  Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

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                                    mitu Global Moderator @sirhenrythe5th
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                                    @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                                    Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

                                    It's already on the Pi, as lr-fbalpha. It will be renamed as lr-fbneo shortly, but otherwise the code is just a continuation of the fbalpha project. There are more details in the libretro.com forum post, which outlines the reasons for the name change.

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                                    • sirhenrythe5thS
                                      sirhenrythe5th @mitu
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                                      @mitu thanks once more mitu!!!

                                      So it is the version we are talking here in this thread?
                                      Then i allready use it for NeoGeo and some more games that dont work with AdvanceMame.

                                      I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                                      But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                                      I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                                      Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

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                                        barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
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                                        @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                                        I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

                                        There should be no change to CPS3.

                                        @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                                        the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst

                                        YM2151 is on the todo list, however i can't reproduce your issue, there might be something else causing it.

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          barbudreadmon @sirhenrythe5th
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                                          @sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

                                          But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
                                          I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
                                          Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

                                          I asked around and i confirm there was no change in sound quality for raidendx, so there are only a few possibilities :

                                          • You were previously using raidendx (or clone) and now you are using r2dx_v33 (or clone), the later is a cheap knock-off of the first with awfully bad sound (they removed 2 sound related boards out of the 3 the game originally had, the samplerate went down to 7742hz), btw both versions are mono.
                                          • There is some issue with your setup, it might be a lot of things, maybe your setup dislike this game's refresh rate (which is 55.407801Hz) ?
                                          • Your hardware is struggling (maybe the game eats more cpu now), try setting frameskip to 1 and let me know if it solves the cracklings.

                                          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          • sirhenrythe5thS
                                            sirhenrythe5th @barbudreadmon
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                                            @barbudreadmon thank you very much for your help!

                                            I use raidendx.zip, so i guess the parent rom of this game.
                                            I hope i dont have any issues with my setup, i really do anything to keep it clean and running (daily updates of OS and, as far as available, retropie-setup/all installed packages) no overclocking, no changing of sensible parameters and so on).

                                            In the end i have this this issue only with RaidenDX and once.
                                            I will check it again in the evening when i am home again, i had the same sound experience a couple of days ago with a game in AdvanceMame.
                                            In this case i solved the problem: i use "auto normalize" in the audio-settings of AdvanceMame (which is a great option imo! ;) ) and in this specific case the volume was set to +18 which had the same crackling sound as result.

                                            Now i think maybe i jumped too much between AdvanceMame and FBA so that the audio-mixer got a bit fuzzy.
                                            I will check later as mentioned, maybe it was just a kind of loading error concerning the audio drivers.

                                            Thx a lot again!!!

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