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    Pi Zero Lagging with GBA emulation

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    • luisitoL
      luisito @quicksilver
      last edited by

      @quicksilver I have been thinking about a full size pi, but other posts expect the pi 4 image until xmas at best. So I donโ€™t know if I should buy a pi 3. ๐Ÿง

      Does resolution affect overall performance? I am trying to display it on my computer monitor full HD at 27 inches. Will it run better or faster in those mini 3.5 inch displays?

      I plugged in my USB to dump some ROMs, and the frame rate went to 5fps and it froze for a solid minute. I am disliking the zero a lot.

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      • EfriimE
        Efriim
        last edited by Efriim

        Maybe disable video threading?
        settings >> video >> videothreading = off
        settings >> drivers >> video = glcore/gl (if available)
        settings >> latency >> gpu stuff = off
        settings >> framethrottle >> rewind/gsync = off

        Initialize with runcommand, to set resolution = CEA 1-4

        1ghz should be enough for gba I think???

        how about reading from commandline, background processes, I guess you can do that with top, htop

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        • dankcushionsD
          dankcushions Global Moderator @luisito
          last edited by

          @luisito retropie defaults to 640x480 for libretro emulators on pi 0/1, so resolution should not be an issue. also, the physical size of the screen is not a factor, since you can typically run low resolutions on large displays no problem.

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          • luisitoL
            luisito @Efriim
            last edited by

            @Efriim I have changed all the setting with the exception of runcommand because I can't figure out where it is (I tried the runcommand option from RetroPie but it doesn't show as option in the submenus).

            With your proposed changes now I have managed to reach steady 32.7 FP, with the casual drop to 30 FPS.
            However, the main RetroPie menu sometimes drop to 12 FPS.
            If I access RetroArch within the game it pumps it to 60 FPS, but that is because the emulation gets paused.
            Zero still hoovers at a steady 42C at max temperature and 37C when idle.

            It definitely help by a lot, so thanks!! :D
            Still looks funny and feels slow but now it is playable.

            However, I still don't understand why the FPS are so low. A lot of people manage 60 FPS without a sweat with GBA games.

            And now, I am not sure what I did, changed or broke, but it seems that Hotkey (Select) + Right Shoulder, doesn't save state anymore.

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            • luisitoL
              luisito @dankcushions
              last edited by

              @dankcushions said in Pi Zero Lagging with GBA emulation:

              for libretro emulators on pi 0/1, so resolution should not be an issue. also, the physical size of the screen is not a factor, since you can typically run low resolutions on large displays no problem.

              Thanks! I was under the impression that the GPU would have to squish more out for larger screens to achieve the desired scale.

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              • dankcushionsD
                dankcushions Global Moderator @luisito
                last edited by

                @luisito i think it sounds to me like you've changed some settings in your tweaking, or perhaps weren't running from stock retropie in the first place. i would personally start from a fresh retropie standard image, no overclocking, and then see what it's like from there. once you've changed settings it's almost impossible to diagnose

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                • luisitoL
                  luisito @dankcushions
                  last edited by

                  @dankcushions Sure, I will do that.
                  There is a new image right?
                  I will report after doing all that. Perhaps during the weekend if time allows ๐Ÿ˜

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                  • EfriimE
                    Efriim @luisito
                    last edited by Efriim

                    @luisito
                    Or you could upload your settings and I can run a diff on them to highlight all the changes.
                    Or delete the settings which should give you a new one, provided the overrides are also deleted.
                    network~\configs\all\retroarch.cfg
                    /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg

                    Were you able to try htop from ssh commandline?

                    upload large text files to pastebin.com
                    I will edit the post above about runcommand.

                    Since you got positive results if it wasn't just a fluke, you could try disabling a few more things
                    settings >> drivers >> audio = alsathread
                    settings >> video >> vertical sync = off
                    settings >> video >> frame delay = 0 (alternative to turning the vsync off, maybe try a quick compare of value 7 and 15 just to see, then turn off vsync)
                    settings >> latency >> run-ahead = off

                    and
                    settings >> user interface >> threaded tasks = off (Haven't had to use this before.)
                    settings >> user interface >> appearance >> icon shadows = off

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                    • dankcushionsD
                      dankcushions Global Moderator @Efriim
                      last edited by

                      @Efriim said in Pi Zero Lagging with GBA emulation:

                      Or delete the settings which should give you a new one, provided the overrides are also deleted

                      no, this will give you retroarch defaults which are not retropie defaults, and will give you a whole new set of problems.

                      i really wouldn't recommend changing any of the settings you are recommending. retropie will default to the right settings for all of these.

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                      • luisitoL
                        luisito
                        last edited by

                        Thanks a lot! everybody. Things are improving so I think we are on the right track and your help is moving things forward.
                        Have a lot of responsibilities for the next 4 days.So I will post again next week.

                        But for the meantime I ran a very quick thop and hop, and the system is 97%m idle, nothing in the background eating power. Even the ram sits at 10% of maximum.

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                        • luisitoL
                          luisito @dankcushions
                          last edited by

                          @dankcushions said in Pi Zero Lagging with GBA emulation:

                          no, this will give you retroarch defaults which are not retropie defaults, and will give you a whole new set of problems.

                          I was unaware of this. This is a revelation.

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                          • Solid OneS
                            Solid One
                            last edited by

                            Try gpsp's non-retroarch version. With this version, you'll probably have less lag on GBA games, since it consumes less resources than the default retroarch version.

                            I've tested this version on a Raspberry Pi 1 B+, and I remember playing some GBA games without lag. It was on 2015, and back then, if my memory serves, there was no lr-gpsp yet.

                            I don't know if it'll work on your Pi Zero, but assuming Pi Zero and Pi 1 has approximately the same hardware, there's the chance that it can work.

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