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How are core inclusion decisions made?

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    dankcushions Global Moderator @windg
    last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 15:30

    @windg said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

    Since the topic is relevant and since the other one is locked I want to ask a question. Because i am still have lr-duckstation core on my setup, is it possible, a future update, to cause this core to not work? Thanks.

    i think unless you deleted the core and your /psx/emulators.cfg it would stay regardless of updates.

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      rhester72 @dankcushions
      last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 15:56

      @dankcushions said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

      @rhester72

      But they weren't his binaries in the first place, by his own admission, he was merely hosting them. If the original creator, who actually holds the Creative Commons license he attributed to them, is amenable, is that an issue?

      the author of the code/binaries and the host/author of the website are the same person.

      Absolutely not true. From his own github:

      The core is maintained by a third party, and is not provided as part of the GitHub release.

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        dankcushions Global Moderator @rhester72
        last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 16:17

        @rhester72 said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

        @dankcushions said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

        @rhester72

        But they weren't his binaries in the first place, by his own admission, he was merely hosting them. If the original creator, who actually holds the Creative Commons license he attributed to them, is amenable, is that an issue?

        the author of the code/binaries and the host/author of the website are the same person.

        Absolutely not true. From his own github:

        The core is maintained by a third party, and is not provided as part of the GitHub release.

        fair, i didn't know about that. i think previously the main author was maintaining the libretro core at one point as they added things at my request. so yeah, hypothetically if said third party re-hosted the binaries then the situation could change, but i wouldn't have thought that is likely right now...

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          Refazeshot1
          last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 16:44

          Not sure how much of this is true but it sounds terrible

          https://www.resetera.com/threads/duckstation-now-on-indefinite-hiatus-allegedly-from-harassment-via-retroarch-others-retroarch-responds.547031/

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            rhester72 @Refazeshot1
            last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 16:55

            @refazeshot1 said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

            Not sure how much of this is true but it sounds terrible

            https://www.resetera.com/threads/duckstation-now-on-indefinite-hiatus-allegedly-from-harassment-via-retroarch-others-retroarch-responds.547031/

            There's two sides to every story. His issues with libretro predate Duckstation. It's a LOT more nuanced than that thread would have you believe...remove all the crowd-sopping "f--k Retroarch!" posts and there's precious little real information there. I shared my thoughts yesterday on the same Reddit post and stand behind them 100%.

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              Refazeshot1 @rhester72
              last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 17:04

              @rhester72 I agree with you 100%. Starting to read through more threads now....

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                barbudreadmon @Refazeshot1
                last edited by barbudreadmon 2 Nov 2022, 18:03 11 Feb 2022, 17:12

                @refazeshot1 said in How are core inclusion decisions made?:

                Not sure how much of this is true but it sounds terrible

                Imho, not much, last year (or maybe late 2020) stenzek unilaterally started to insult TA on reddit, some bullshit about PS3 SDK code illegally copied to retroarch, it turned out the code was actually gcc code and perfectly legal to copy. I went to duckstation discord myself to try to calm things down with stenzek because there was actually no issue, what i found out was that he was weaponizing his users, the result of this being that TA's postal address was shared on that discord and people were talking about hurting him physically, when i asked stenzek if he thought it was right to leave that stuff on his discord, people on his discord started insulting me. I left that discord and avoided duckstation after that. Afterward i just know TA made up with him and agreed to all his whims. I don't recommend trusting anything he has to say.

                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                  Refazeshot1 @barbudreadmon
                  last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 17:23

                  @barbudreadmon Thats terrible!! I can't believe they posted his address.

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                    rhester72 @dankcushions
                    last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 19:31

                    @dankcushions Nobody from libretro is claiming to have done that build. If the author does surface, I'll advise.

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                      sirhenrythe5th @rhester72
                      last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 19:41

                      I am shocked how political the emulation scene goes sometimes.
                      And how tragic. Byuu (bsnes and other projects) killed himself because of cybermobbing, Aaron Giles also was attacked until he quit and now we have this duckstation/retroarch disaster.
                      Gosh, i always think: c'mon guys- it is just about old videogames!!!

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                        rhester72 @sirhenrythe5th
                        last edited by 11 Feb 2022, 20:11

                        @sirhenrythe5th That's interesting...Aaron never said anything to me about abuse, just that it was increasingly difficult to split his time between shepherding MAME and work obligations.

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