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    • markwkiddM
      markwkidd @Clyde
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      @clyde is there a github issue filed yet for Spy Hunter?

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      • ClydeC
        Clyde @markwkidd
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        @markwkidd Alas, I don't know. I searched https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues and https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues. I found the following issues, but I lack the expertise to say if they're relevant for the popping up of the mame menu.

        • https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues/121
        • https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues/34
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        • markwkiddM
          markwkidd @Clyde
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          @clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

          @markwkidd Alas, I don't know. I searched https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues and https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues. I found the following issues, but I lack the expertise to say if they're relevant for the popping up of the mame menu.

          • https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/issues/121
          • https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues/34

          Thank you for taking the time to look through those github repositories.Based on your experience, I think this is a distinct bug from those two issues. If you're willing, I'd like to suggest you create a new github issue in mame2003-plus just for your Spy Hunter problem.

          I would be glad to take a look at it in a few days and there are some other developers active in mame2003-plus who might also have ideas.

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          • DougAD
            DougA @markwkidd
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            @markwkidd Thanks. I will have a look, but I am no expert.

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            • AndersHPA
              AndersHP
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              @caver01 I think your input to this thread could be helpful, since I think you must have been setting up your fair share of upright 4:3 games in your build?

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              My Gameboy

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              • caver01C
                caver01 @AndersHP
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                @andershp No doubt. My cabinet is very similar to a vertical design, except that it is a 4-player cocktail. Horizontal games play from the long side, and vertical games play from controls on the ends. For the latter games, it is effectively a vertical setup since I am basically running them in manual 'tate' mode with the video rotated to fill the whole screen.

                As for the games themselves, we are talking about many/most of the early, 4-way joystick arcade classics.

                Tempest is vertical, requires a spinner
                Centipede --trackball
                Popeye
                Punch out
                APB - All Points Bulletin
                Journey
                Tetris (I always use the cocktail version for inverted head to head play)
                Commando

                Somewhere, there is a MAME list of just the vertical games. That might be worth finding. I can never remember all of my favorites.

                My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                • caver01C
                  caver01 @caver01
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                  @caver01 Somebody needs to mention Time Pilot. There. I did.

                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                  • markwkiddM
                    markwkidd @Clyde
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                    @clyde I just tried spyhunt.zip in mame2003-plus and I don't see the problem. :confused:

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @markwkidd
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                      @markwkidd said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

                      I just tried spyhunt.zip in mame2003-plus and I don't see the problem.

                      I haven't tested it myself, but the work done recently concerning the MCR Midway titles is likely to have fixed this.

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                      • ClydeC
                        Clyde @markwkidd
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                        @markwkidd Alas, I can't test it on mame2003-plus because it fails to build in Retropie at the moment. :( I didn't have the time to try the workarounds suggested in the issue's comments, yet. I may do so this weekend.

                        @caver01: I didn't mention Time Pilot because the TO explicitly asked for non-shooters. It's one of my all time favorites, although I only played it on the C64 back in the old days. I recently played the arcade version and was surprised how good at it I still was, being now in my late forties. ;)

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                        • caver01C
                          caver01 @Clyde
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                          @clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

                          I didn't mention Time Pilot because the TO explicitly asked for non-shooters

                          I wondered about that. For some reason, I don't think of TP the same way as other shoot em ups. Maybe because you can fly in any direction it feels somehow different. To me it is more of a dogfight game.

                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                          • DougAD
                            DougA @caver01
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                            @caver01 I cannot believe i missed Tetris! Thanks. for al lof these.

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                            • ClydeC
                              Clyde @caver01
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                              @caver01 I see your point. Still, you shoot things the whole time in the game. :) But since @DougA didn't say what games fall under the term, I think it's okay if we mention some shaky candidates, as long as the thread isn't drowned in them.

                              The dogfight feeling of TP really sets it apart from the majority of other shooters; it's the main reason for its special place in my retro gamer's heart …

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                              • caver01C
                                caver01 @Clyde
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                                @clyde Agreed. If you follow my link above, you will see how @AndersHP and I went back and forth with high scores! I am curious about yours.

                                Have you tried the sequel TP84? I know I have dropped a few quarters into it in my youth, but I have not played it in emulation.

                                My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                • ClydeC
                                  Clyde @caver01
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                                  @caver01 My highscore is a mere 98300, even though reached in only a handful of games after many decades. If I get near the scores of you both, I'll post them in your thread.

                                  I didn't try TP84 yet, but I already marked it as a favourite for the near future. :)

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                                  • DougAD
                                    DougA @Clyde
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                                    @that’s fine by me. Anything with a bit of variation is good :-) I was really trying to find suggestions for things that aren’t just remakes of Space Invaders.

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                                    • ClydeC
                                      Clyde @Clyde
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                                      @clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

                                      @markwkidd Alas, I can't test it on mame2003-plus because it fails to build in Retropie at the moment. :( I didn't have the time to try the workarounds suggested in the issue's comments, yet. I may do so this weekend.

                                      I did today. This hotfix (comment #385853797 from grant2258) let me build mame2003-plus on Retropie 4.4. Since it includes overwriting the original ~/Retropie-Setup/scriptmodules/libretrocores/lr-mame2003-plus.sh, you may want to make a backup of this file first:

                                      cp ~/Retropie-Setup/scriptmodules/libretrocores/lr-mame2003-plus.sh ~/Retropie-Setup/scriptmodules/libretrocores/lr-mame2003-plus.sh.backup
                                      

                                      As for Spy Hunter, it works in mame2003-plus as well as in AdvanceMAME3 (I didn't test AdvanceMAME's other versions). So it remains the task to map SH's analog wheel controls to my digital joystick in a playable manner.

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                                        grant2258 Banned
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                                        @clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

                                        003-plu

                                        spyhunter should be working in mame2003 as well the bally fixes where ported over there as well the vector games will work on mame2003 + and mame2003 if there is still issues with spy hunter on mame2003 let me know the input issues should be gone on both cores though. Well the gui displaying things when it shouldnt be

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                                        • ClydeC
                                          Clyde @grant2258
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                                          @grant2258 I updated mame2003 from source and the problem is gone. The only strange thing was that the dip switch for Service Mode was on from the start, but I could disable it via Mame's gui. Maybe the older version of mame2003 messed up the dip settings? Anyway, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

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                                            grant2258 Banned @Clyde
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                                            @clyde said in Vertical screen non-shoot 'em ups.:

                                            messed

                                            yes the old version problems messed them settings up would probably be best to clear the directory in all honesty

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