The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!
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@quicksilver Thanks for the info. I've been away from the forum for a while and the last time I was in a discussion involving 3DO testing it was a slideshow in terms of fps. I never bothered to test it myself when I heard the results others were getting. With what you've told me its all but guaranteed to work great on the Pi4, which is awesome news.
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@Barcrest About my only positive experience with Saturn emulation was a brief test I did on my core i5 gaming laptop and from what I remember it worked quite well. I think it was Mednafen. I never went beyond just testing and playing around with the emulator briefly though as I didn't find the interface very intuitive at the time, and it was a bit of a chore to use I found personally. I've heard Yabause is quirky at best so never even attempted that one. Because it was my understanding that up until recently Saturn emulation was difficult even on a beefed up PC, I never bothered to even entertain the idea on an ARM based platform. I guess I should have been paying more attention.
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@quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
I dont know if anyone noticed but the pi 4 SDRAM frequency is set to 3200mhz. I knew that it was better than previous models, just didnt realize how much better. I also saw on the RPI config.txt documentation page that by enabling 4k video mode, the GPU's clock speed will auto increase to 600 mhz, so there is definitely some overclocking potential here if 600mhz is considered stable as a factory setting.
Im picking up my 4b 2gb tomorrow and hope to start playing with it this weekend. Fun times!
Where'd you end up getting it from? Still MicroCenter?
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@hooperre Yep, they most have gotten more in stock. I reserved it today and will be headed there tomorrow to pick it up.
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@quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
@hooperre Yep, they most have gotten more in stock. I reserved it today and will be headed there tomorrow to pick it up.
Congrats. V jealous. I texted them and haven't heard back. Suppose I'll have to call and ask.
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@hooperre It will probably just be an attractive paper weight until people more capable than myself get things running on it. :)
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My local microcenter has all pi4 models in stock. The 4gb is listed as out of stock on the website but when I got there they had just got a shipment this morning.
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About Saturn emulation, if it works fine on Odroid XU4, it has the potential to be equal or better on the RPi 4. The major weakness on the older Pies was the lack of OpenGL ES 3.X support, but the RPi 4 supports it and the GPU, despite there is little information and tests about it now, it is most likely more powerfull that the Odroid XU4.
About the CPU performance, multi-threaded the XU4 wins, it is 8 core SBC, but the RPi 4 cores are more recent and more powerfull, even running at lower frequency. And since most emulators are single-thread, or at least, don't use more than 2 cores, the RPi should have better performance in the future.
But this isn't something that will happen next week or next month, it will require time and alot of work, probably even on some of the emulators code. -
I'm wondering whether the major changes to the hardware of the pi4 might wind up meaning that
beebem(BBC Micro) has a greater chance of working properly (ie with sound). -
How reliable would this guy's Retropie Buster image be ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/c6655h/retropie_buster_base_image/
He frequently mentions that he would not be welcome here. Is he legit ?
i think I almost recognize the nick..but may be before my time here.
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@ByteThis I think somebody already tried installing RetroPie on the PI4 - it's in another topic - but it's more than just making sure everything compiles and installs right. The other poster just got a black screen opening up ES, so there's more work to be done to make it work with the new hardware and software.
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@ByteThis I did a fresh install of buster and retropie on top of that on a Pi 3b+ - had loads of issues and glitches. And no this didn't work when transferred and run on a Pi4 - errors about the GL mode / experimental driver. even when switching the Pi 4 to legacy mode only got a black screen. Wait for the devs I guess :)
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My 4GB Pi 4 just arrived today. Could anyone please summarize what is postponing the RetroPie on Pi 4 now?
Ive heard there are missing some CPU and graphics drivers in Buster. Ist that right? I did not find any informations about that on Rasperry Pi website and blog posts. Also what is in the way of RetroPie, ES, RetroArch etc etc to run on the Pi 4? And of course the big question what postpones the use of N64? And finally where to stay updated abput this topics?
Thanks :)
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@mick just got my pi 4 today was yours inside the box in a antistatic bag? or it was without?
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I have a day one unit, it came in a sealed box but without a bag if I remember correctly!
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@matchaman ok fair enough strange they dont put a bag even the zero had
any case/large heat sinks ? i cant seem to find in ebay
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@mick said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
My 4GB Pi 4 just arrived today. Could anyone please summarize what is postponing the RetroPie on Pi 4 now?
Ive heard there are missing some CPU and graphics drivers in Buster. Ist that right? I did not find any informations about that on Rasperry Pi website and blog posts. Also what is in the way of RetroPie, ES, RetroArch etc etc to run on the Pi 4? And of course the big question what postpones the use of N64? And finally where to stay updated abput this topics?
Thanks :)
Postponing the release? Jesus - the pi 4 has been out less than a week. I know it's exciting, but come on. Give the Devs a chance.
That aside, there are a number of changes to the pi 4, which without knowing an awful lot, I'm sure this will mean a number of coding changes are needed to the retropie image and the emulators used.
It will be out when it's ready, we should really appreciate the hard work and time that goes into this great project, which by the way..... Is FREE!
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Would there be any chance at all for Mesen to be included amont the NES emulator options? I don't expect the HD packs to run smoothly, but maybe the emulator itself can now run smoothly. Gotta love that bisqwit NTSC filter, and it is the most accurate NES emulator nowadays.
Also, I read on twitter that byuu might be interested in seeing how well bsnes 107 might run here. If any of the Retropie devs could contact him and work something out it would be awesome. I mean BSNES is amazing, but he has recently made lots of progress on Neogeo Pocket and Sega CD emulation, and both those systems deserve more emulator love. :)
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@retropi19 They don’t deliver the Pis in anti static bags anymore. The little paper like sheet below the board apparently protects it in a similar way. They did the same at least on the Pi 3 B+.
I will receive a 4GB version on Monday. I only really wanted/needed a 2GB version, but it appeared the 4GB was going to be delivered sooner, so I ordered one of each. Good call, since the 4GB got delivered earlier, at least from this supplier.
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@Jste84 Im fine with that. I am just curious whats in the way of running everything, what is needed to do so and where to get updates...
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