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    The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    • BuZzB
      BuZz administrators @dd0ck
      last edited by

      @dd0ck I already use a NAS with my older RPI. CD games are not all loaded at once so are fine.

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        Marcel @Jiryn
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        @Jiryn You'll have to dremel your case already for the Pi 4, so it's just a little more dremeling for this setup. :)

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        • paffleyP
          paffley
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          1gb, 2gb or 4gb memory best for emulation? (I ask this as is there a limit to what emulation can use?)

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          • thelostsoulT
            thelostsoul @paffley
            last edited by thelostsoul

            @paffley Emulators itself don't need much system RAM, so increasing it won't help. More memory can help with other things like the frontend (EmulationStation). My advise is to get 2gb if you really want to use it for emulation with RetroPie only, or just the 1gb if you can't justify the 28% increase in price, while the performance in emulation don't change. But having more (4gb) won't hurt other than your pocket.

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            • paffleyP
              paffley
              last edited by

              Perfect answer! Thanks @thelostsoul that answers my question! :)

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              • paffleyP
                paffley
                last edited by paffley

                I was also thinking more on the lines of N64 performance, I didn't want to purchase the 2gb version if the 4gb would be much better for this system (wait 5-6 days for 4gb release). But from what I gather its more the n64 emulation correct? than the power of the unit itself? :)

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                • willdW
                  willd
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                  Excited about this.

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                  • ThakT
                    Thak
                    last edited by

                    Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?

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                    • dankcushionsD
                      dankcushions Global Moderator @Thak
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                      @Thak said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                      Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?

                      on what emulator? if it was MAME, then the CPU is 2-4 times the performance of the pi3, depending on the situation, and MAME is CPU based, so assuming that is the bottleneck, i would expect a good improvement, but it's probably still going to be glitchy. maybe a later version of MAME is viable. really need a specialist model 1&2 emulator becoming open source... doubtful.

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                      • ThakT
                        Thak @dankcushions
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                        @dankcushions here the link

                        https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111384

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                        • dankcushionsD
                          dankcushions Global Moderator @Thak
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                          @Thak it does seem like it's abandoned unfortunately. known glitches in basically every game. so yeah, glitches will remain but i would expect better performance.

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                          • ThakT
                            Thak @dankcushions
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                            @dankcushions damn... That's too bad :'(

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                            • Lyle_JPL
                              Lyle_JP
                              last edited by

                              I would really rather have a full sized HDMI port than 2 micro ports, but other than that, this looks really exciting. 4k hardware h.265 decoding is something I've wanted for awhile, and the memory options are great. Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?

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                              • thelostsoulT
                                thelostsoul @Lyle_JP
                                last edited by

                                @Lyle_JP said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?

                                Hard to say (from my perspective). If you aim at same performance, then it will be cooler for sure. If you run it at its full potential, I would assume its a bit hotter, because its consuming more power. Here is a full review and first look, testing the heat too: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html

                                Yes, this board gets warm, warmer than its predecessor. Thermal images mirror what we experienced; the areas of the board near the CPU get really warm, not just the top of the processor itself. The Pi 4 board reaches a toasty 74.5 degrees Celsius (166 degrees Fahrenheit). That’s not enough for a serious burn, but kids especially should be sure to pick up the Pi by its sides only. The top surface of the Pi 3 B+ is much cooler, maxing out at 62.5 degrees Celsius (144.6 degrees Fahrenheit).

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                                  zortnac
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                                  Looking forward to being able to turn on the rewind feature for PS1, which, on my 3B+, slows things down to a stutter. I've been wondering if it had more to do with processor limitations or memory bandwidth limitations?

                                  Something to look forward to down the line. I just finished putting together a retropie this spring, so I really should just enjoy it for a while, at least long enough for case designers to release updates for the new form factor :-)

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                                  • simpleethatS
                                    simpleethat
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                                    I understand that all the ports aren't in the same spot but is the board the same size and are the 4 screw holes in the same locations? I run my pi-hole in a stacked pair of cases and it would be nice to just remove the old board and replace it with a new one when I upgrade that particular pi.

                                    Actually that would be useful for at least one of my Retropie builds as well

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                                    • thelostsoulT
                                      thelostsoul @simpleethat
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                                      @simpleethat The website says they managed to make it compatible, but not 100%. The place for the LAN connection is changed, so they could optimize it more.

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                                      • simpleethatS
                                        simpleethat @thelostsoul
                                        last edited by simpleethat

                                        @thelostsoul the case it would be going into is four standoffs and a top and bottom plastic board. That sounds pretty promising

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                                          retropi19
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                                          hi is it worth it to take the 2gb version? i mean does it perform faster in anything over the 1gb

                                          here in greece in the official distributor it cost 60usd including shipping while the 1gb version cost almost 49usd with shipping

                                          Rpi3B+ USB 2.0 Boot HDD Hitachi 40GB 5400rpm

                                          Rpi4 4GB rev1.4 USB 3.0 Boot HDD Hitachi 160GB 7200rpm

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator @retropi19
                                            last edited by

                                            @retropi19 the front-end or memory hungry games can benefit from the VRAM increase.

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