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      Zering @Folly
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      @folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

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        Folly @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @folly Do I sense that you have a new idea? ^^

        The multi-disk problem would be nice to fix.
        Don't have a really good idea about that now.

        mz700, fm7 and fm77av boot with a dummy file.
        mz2500 doesn't boot.

        Something for tomorrow.

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          Zering @Folly
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          @folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
          Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

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            Folly @Zering
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            @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @folly What type of files are you using? I use mess zips as much as possible.
            Mz2500 definitely booted on my end with your script, except Ys 3 (I suspect your lr-mess-mz2500 mounts the discs differently), if I can get it to work so can you! ^^

            0.151 version with 7 files inside

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              Zering @Folly
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              @folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

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                Folly @Zering
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                @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @folly I meant for the games. 7 games for a mess mz2500 set sounds way off.

                no games yet.
                have to search.

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                  Folly @Folly
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                  @Zering @AdamBeGood

                  No games yet for mz2500. (seem very hard to find !)
                  But with the command without any media it boots.
                  So just have to find the right disk files.

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                  The others work. I found some games.
                  Seems my generated fm77av script looks for -cass, changed manually into -flop1 in emulators.cfg
                  (This issue was expected, perhaps I can pull it off in version 2 of my script using also second and third lines, so I can make one for cass and one for flop1)
                  Could play this OOB (nice one)(Fireball (1987)(Humming Bird Soft)) :
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                  FM-7 (still have to do the controlls)( 1942 (1987)(ASCII)(JP))and(Castle, The (1985)(ASCII)(JP)):
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                  MZ-700 (3D-Way Out (19xx)(BBG Software)) (looks like one of the first dooms ;-):
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                    AdamBeGood @Folly
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                    @folly Fireball is so colourful for that time! You're really exploring here.

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                      Zering @AdamBeGood
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                      @adambegood Most FM7/FM77AV games I played were quite colourful. It's quite an interesting system but we have to discover pretty much everything.

                      @Folly MZ2500 is included in the MESS 0.151 Software Lists, and I think any MAME edition after that.

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                        Folly @Zering
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                        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @adambegood Most FM7/FM77AV games I played were quite colourful. It's quite an interesting system but we have to discover pretty much everything.

                        @Folly MZ2500 is included in the MESS 0.151 Software Lists, and I think any MAME edition after that.

                        Found it. Will try now

                        Tried a few. laydock and tritorn didn't work.
                        sound gal booted :
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                        penguin kun wars (works quite good, indeed nice system!) :
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                          Zering @Folly
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                          @folly Laydock didn't work without scripts either, I think the ROM is broken. Don't know about Tritorn.

                          Judging by the MZ2500 and the X1 it seems Sharp always put out really advanced machines for the time.

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                            Folly @Zering
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                            @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @folly Laydock didn't work without scripts either, I think the ROM is broken. Don't know about Tritorn.

                            Read somewhere that mz80b mz2000 and mz2500 are somewhat the same computers and that they could be software compatible.
                            What do you know about that ?

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                              Zering @Folly
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                              @folly @folly I'm not sure. I know they're the same series, much like the MZ700 and MZ1500. But I don't know if they're software compatible. There's also a MZ3500, 6500, and a lot of others... I've got a bunch of those machines set up and they seem to have somewhat different libraries but with quite a bit of overlap. So I suppose it could be but I imagine that much like FM7 and FM77AV you'd still need MESS rom sets for each system.

                              Interesting discovery. I loaded CAS files for PC6001. Lr-mess doesn't do anything with them. I get booted back to ES. The lr-mess-pc6001 I built with your script doesn't load the game, but the machine does boot. I get a 'How many pages message?'.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @folly @folly I'm not sure. I know they're the same series, much like the MZ700 and MZ1500. But I don't know if they're software compatible. There's also a MZ3500, 6500, and a lot of others... I've got a bunch of those machines set up and they seem to have somewhat different libraries but with quite a bit of overlap. So I suppose it could be but I imagine that much like FM7 and FM77AV you'd still need MESS rom sets for each system.

                                  Interesting discovery. I loaded CAS files for PC6001. Lr-mess doesn't do anything with them. I get booted back to ES. The lr-mess-pc6001 I built with your script doesn't load the game, but the machine does boot. I get a 'How many pages message?'.

                                  I think a problem as expected.
                                  You have to create a second commandline in the emulators.cfg for that system and make one with -cass instead of -cart1.
                                  Select the cass version when booting should do the trick, I think !

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                                    Folly
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                                    @Zering
                                    I will hear about it later, have to do some other stuff today.

                                    good luck!

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                                      Zering @Folly
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                                      @folly

                                      So like this?

                                      lr-mess = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg %ROM%"
                                      default = "lr-mess"
                                      lr-mess-pc6001 = "/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg pc6001 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cart1 %ROM%"
                                      lr-mess-pc6001-cass = "/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg pc6001 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cass %ROM%"
                                      

                                      I'll try.

                                      Edit : Didn't work with cass, but it worked with -cart2. The game I tried didn't boot, but with cart2 I did get into the machine, so there's that. I'll try a few more games.

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @folly

                                        So like this?

                                        lr-mess = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg %ROM%"
                                        default = "lr-mess"
                                        lr-mess-pc6001 = "/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg pc6001 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cart1 %ROM%"
                                        lr-mess-pc6001-cass = "/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/pc6001/retroarch.cfg pc6001 /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS -cass %ROM%"
                                        

                                        I'll try.

                                        Edit : Didn't work with cass, but it worked with -cart2. The game I tried didn't boot, but with cart2 I did get into the machine, so there's that. I'll try a few more games.

                                        This is the output, cassette plays indeed from the -cart2 option (no -cass option in there):

                                        $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia pc6001
                                        SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
                                        ---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
                                        pc6001           cartridge1       (cart1)    .bin  
                                                         cartridge2       (cart2)    .cas  .p6
                                        
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                                          Zering @Folly
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                                          @folly None of the .cas files I booted with lr-mess-pc6001-cart2 worked. Mess does start the machine though, so that's a leg up from regular old mess.
                                          I haven't tried any p6 files though.

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                                            Folly @Zering
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                                            @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly None of the .cas files I booted with lr-mess-pc6001-cart2 worked. Mess does start the machine though, so that's a leg up from regular old mess.
                                            I haven't tried any p6 files though.

                                            Perhaps you have to do a load command just like with zx81.
                                            (perhaps you can find on the internet what command)
                                            Go to menu of lr-mess tape control -> play
                                            Don't know if it works, but you can try.

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