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    MAME ROW #8: Pac & Pal

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    • pjftP
      pjft @GtBFilms
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      @GtBFilms Thanks for the note. I had never seen one - that's good for reference.

      I am planning on building a regular sized one, but I am now curious about the PiCade. What's the screen resolution, and how comfortable is the joystick? Is it 8-way? 4-way? Just curious, as it might be an interesting alternative - or stopgap measure.

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        GtBFilms @pjft
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        @pjft the standard 8" screen is only 800 x 600 resolution. It looks okay on most games because the screen is so small, but I wouldn't like to have that resolution on a larger screen. The replacement 12" ones are 1024 x 768 generally I think.

        The kit is kind of expensive at £180, but they occasionally do deals for 10% off at random intervals (I got their Star Wars 'May the Fourth' 10% discount)

        You have to add your own raspberry pi and power supply.

        Although its expensive I priced out all the components and to be honest, reckoned I couldn't do it much cheaper myself, once you factor in several lots of postage costs from different suppliers.

        Downside is the small screen, and it's only single player.

        The joystick is an 8 way zippyy stick, it has a restrictor plate underneath to limit it to 4 way if required. It's okay, but a bit too clicky. I replaced it with a Seimitsu stick (LS-32-SC) which does feel nicer, especially with a heavier aluminium bat handle on it. The standard kit buttons are fine, not too clicky or stiff and I have kept the stock ones (although I've now moved them all around and used the black ones on the control panel instead of the coloured ones) apart from the two new illuminated buttons I put on the front for COIN and 1P START.

        I play it a lot more than my bartop as it's lighter and more portable. Also handy for taking along to our monthly retrogaming club meetings. However the bartop has a PC in it and can handle Future Pinball etc, and also is two player. The bartop also looks a lot better with vector based games such as asteroids, star wars etc as it's got a lot more graphic processing power. I would love a full size cab but sadly don't have the space (plus my wife's arcade cab tolerance level has definitely now been reached!)

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        • GtBFilmsG
          GtBFilms @meleu
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          @meleu wow, that's amazing. I have a friend who is into skateboarding tricks but nothing like that! Pretty cool!

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          • mediamogulM
            mediamogul Global Moderator @GtBFilms
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            @GtBFilms said in MAME ROW #8: Pac & Pal:

            Future Pinball

            I love Future Pinball! Talk about a project, I'd love to make a full size virtual pinball table with a giant flatscreen monitor and a few smaller ones for the back glass and score readouts. Time, money and available space sadly prevent me from living the dream though.

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            • GtBFilmsG
              GtBFilms @mediamogul
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              @mediamogul yeah, I've seen a few of these electronic pinball machine builds using full size HD TV and force feedback etc. on YouTube. They do look absolutely awesome.

              I know a guy locally who was talking about building one, he's built a full size arcade cab with switchable control panels previously, but I don't think it's come to anything yet.

              Sadly I have neither the cash, the expertise, nor the space for such a build. They look incredible though.

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              • mediamogulM
                mediamogul Global Moderator
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                It's funny how both familiar and foreign this game has felt at the same time. I worked out a couple of pattern-based strategies for the first few levels to stun the ghosts twice with each special item. That, along with keeping my peripheral vision locked to miru at all times so that she doesn't get away with anything, helps to a point. However, after about stage six or seven, I'm really just trying not to get caught by the ghosties. I'm gonna knock it on the head for this one and let my score stand at 89850.

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                • GtBFilmsG
                  GtBFilms @mediamogul
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                  @mediamogul excellent score. I had another go on the PC on Friday, it was easier with a D-pad. However I didn't beat your score.

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                  • meleuM
                    meleu
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                    Hey guys. I'm sorry for not playing with you this week. The oil platform that I work will go through an audit and I'm having a lot of work in the last few days.

                    But my day off starts the day after tomorrow and I'll play with you in the MAME ROW #9: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/5336/mame-row-9

                    Cheers!

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                    • pjftP
                      pjft @meleu
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                      @meleu Real life happens some times, thanks for still making all of this happen!

                      I'm sad that I didn't have a lot more chances to play Pac & Pal - I was having a good time with it. I will likely return to it in the future when I have the time - it was an enjoyable game, and one I wouldn't have discovered without ROW!

                      Congrats @mediamogul @GtBFilms for your great scores!

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                      • mediamogulM
                        mediamogul Global Moderator @meleu
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                        @meleu

                        Not a problem. Looking forward to the next one.

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                          backstander @meleu
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                          @meleu
                          Thank you for hosting this! Sorry to hear about the audits but I just watched the movie Deepwater Horizon (2016) and that disaster could have been prevented if BP would have allowed for proper audits instead of rushing because they where behind schedule. Stay safe @meleu :-)

                          I didn't have much time to play Pac & Pal but I could only get to the 2nd level so I didn't bother taking a picture of my high score but I did visit family this weekend and we got pretty competitive playing the Gameboy version of Tetris!

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                          • mediamogulM
                            mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
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                            @backstander said in MAME ROW #8: Pac & Pal:

                            we got pretty competitive playing the Gameboy version of Tetris!

                            It's a great game to get competitive over. Arguable the best version of the game as well.

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                            • pjftP
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                              @backstander @mediamogul Fully agreed.

                              In fact, any way to play it two player on RetroPie - or a similarly fun 2P competitive Tetris game?

                              That's one of the few games I get to play with my wife, but no version so far has been fully successful in winning us over - tried Tengen Tetris on the NES, Tetris Gaiden on the SNES, Tetris Plus 2 on MAME...

                              The closest one we got was the one in SNES on the Dr. Mario + Tetris bundle.

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                              • meleuM
                                meleu @backstander
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                                @backstander said in MAME ROW #8: Pac & Pal:

                                I just watched the movie Deepwater Horizon (2016)

                                I watched only the trailer when I went to watch Dr. Strange. Only the trailer was enough to make me have a huge lump in my throat.

                                I'm not sure if I'll watch this movie some day.

                                Now let's vote on Kung-Fu Master for the MAME ROW #9! :)

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                                • dankcushionsD
                                  dankcushions Global Moderator @pjft
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                                  @pjft said in MAME ROW #8: Pac & Pal:

                                  @backstander @mediamogul Fully agreed.

                                  In fact, any way to play it two player on RetroPie - or a similarly fun 2P competitive Tetris game?

                                  yeah, tgb-dual. not looked into it myself https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/56jcnn/how_do_you_install_tgb_dual_gameboy_multiplayer/

                                  That's one of the few games I get to play with my wife, but no version so far has been fully successful in winning us over - tried Tengen Tetris on the NES, Tetris Gaiden on the SNES, Tetris Plus 2 on MAME...

                                  tetris battle gaiden is my fave :) ninja kid OP!

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                                  • pjftP
                                    pjft @dankcushions
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                                    @dankcushions Thanks, will look into that in the coming days.

                                    Tetris Battle Gaiden is awesome, even though the powers add an extra layer of complexity to my non-gamer wife. I am a gentleman and do not use them against her :)

                                    That being said, what's most distracting to her is the fact that the pieces "glide" rather than "jump" when moving to the sides (i.e. they move pixel by pixel, rather than moving one full grid block at a time). I know it's an animation thing, but it's quite distracting for her as she can't fully control the blocks quite as she wants to.

                                    Oh well :)

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                                      backstander @pjft
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                                      @meleu

                                      I watched only the trailer when I went to watch Dr. Strange. Only the trailer was enough to make me have a huge lump in my throat.

                                      I really want to see Dr. Strange but you may not want to watch Deepwater Horizon if you work in that environment.

                                      @pjft @dankcushions dankcushions

                                      yeah, tgb-dual. not looked into it myself

                                      I use tgb-dual with the Gameboy Tetris and it works like a charm! It just displays both Gameboy screens side-by-side. You can also pick if you want just the left Gameboy's sound, just the right or both or non.

                                      That's one of the few games I get to play with my wife, but no version so far has been fully successful in winning us over - tried Tengen Tetris on the NES, Tetris Gaiden on the SNES, Tetris Plus 2 on MAME...

                                      I use to would play "The Next Tetris" on the PSX back-in-the-day and it's a lot of fun! I haven't tested it on RetroPie yet.

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                                        backstander @backstander
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                                        I just tried the bin/cue & pbp versions of The Next Tetris for PSX in both lr-pcsx-rearmed & pcsx-rearmed and the Dreamcast version of The Next Tetris Online Edition in Reicast and non of them would work. Dreamcast version just kicks back to ES after the BIOS screen and the PSX versions will get up to just before loading the game's title screen and will freeze with a black screen.

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                                        • mediamogulM
                                          mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
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                                          @backstander

                                          A lot of the sprite-based games behave poorly on emulators that focus primarily on 3D system titles. This could be an example of that.

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                                          • dankcushionsD
                                            dankcushions Global Moderator @backstander
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                                            @backstander could you post your /dec/shm/runcommand.log? i'm guessing BIOS issues

                                            EDIT after a psx fail.

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