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    • EcksE
      Ecks
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      The one thing i am hoping for is better Mame emulation because it would be nice to have a Pi and at least the 2gb memory model handle games like Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder and Killer Instinct 1 and 2 because i love those games and would be great for my barcade.

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      • AddisonA
        Addison
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        What RetroPie standard applications would 2 or even 4 GB internal memory be needed for?

        Please and thank you.

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        • EcksE
          Ecks @Addison
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          @Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

          What RetroPie standard applications would 2 or even 4 GB internal memory be needed for?

          Please and thank you.

          Well certain emulators like N64 would benefit better from more memory and i would tend to think certain arcade emulation as well and also PSP and Dreamcast should be more improved on it with more memory.

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          • matchamanM
            matchaman @dankcushions
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            @dankcushions said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

            @hiulit said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

            VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x

            this is HUGE news I think. it should mean fullspeed and accurate emulation for:

            • n64
            • dreamcast
            • saturn

            and better emulators for

            • playstation (beetle-hw)

            all of these required GLES 3.x for full support. GLES 2.x was always holding pi3 back, for the most part.

            i should think the new CPU should allow for full speed current MAME also, but we will see...

            Accurate Saturn emulation? That's amazing!

            But with which emulator? The only accurate Saturn emulator I know of is Mednafen and it requires a modern fast desktop CPU...

            As for N64, the latest updates on M64P indeed bring excellent accuracy on HLE, I guess we should consider the N64 fully emulated on the Pi now...

            Also I'd really love to see SEGA Model 1 & 2 emulation but I guess we're not that fortunate due no available open source emulator options out there.

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            • dankcushionsD
              dankcushions Global Moderator @matchaman
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              @matchaman said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

              Accurate Saturn emulation? That's amazing!
              But with which emulator? The only accurate Saturn emulator I know of is Mednafen and it requires a modern fast desktop CPU...

              yaba-sanshiro is built for ARM phones so it will work. it's accurate enough.

              libretro kronos is also a possibility - a fork of the above. it is not so ARM-centric, though.

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              • sirhenrythe5thS
                sirhenrythe5th
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                very exciting, looking forward to the things that come :)

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                • BriganeB
                  Brigane
                  last edited by

                  Oh My God, it's like christmas time allover again 😍

                  Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
                  Os: RetroPie 4.5
                  Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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                  • hooperreH
                    hooperre
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                    Days like this remind me to thank the mods here lol and everyone involved in the project!

                    4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                    • quicksilverQ
                      quicksilver
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                      Anyone who wants the latest info on the pi 4 can check out this thread on the pi forums. Looks like the engineers are answering questions there as well.

                      https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=243372

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                        frezeen
                        last edited by frezeen

                        https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
                        benchmarks

                        https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
                        a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document

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                          hhromic
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                          According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
                          https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978

                          No. Double.
                          DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.

                          While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!

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                          • quicksilverQ
                            quicksilver @frezeen
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                            @frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.

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                              Barcrest @frezeen
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                              @frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.

                              His video is here for those that are interested.

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                                hhromic
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                                Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                                https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                                Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                                That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

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                                • quicksilverQ
                                  quicksilver
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                                  Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

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                                    frezeen
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                                    real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd

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                                      Barcrest @quicksilver
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                                      @quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                      Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

                                      My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.

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                                      • sirhenrythe5thS
                                        sirhenrythe5th @quicksilver
                                        last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                                        @quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
                                        IMO 55$ is not that much.
                                        So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons?

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                                        • quicksilverQ
                                          quicksilver @sirhenrythe5th
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                                          @sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.

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                                          • dankcushionsD
                                            dankcushions Global Moderator @hhromic
                                            last edited by

                                            @hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                            Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                                            https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                                            Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                                            That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

                                            hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).

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