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    The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!

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    • sirhenrythe5thS
      sirhenrythe5th
      last edited by

      very exciting, looking forward to the things that come :)

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      • BriganeB
        Brigane
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        Oh My God, it's like christmas time allover again 😍

        Systems: Raspberry Pi 0/2/3 Model B+
        Os: RetroPie 4.5
        Frontend: Emulationstation & Attract Mode

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        • hooperreH
          hooperre
          last edited by

          Days like this remind me to thank the mods here lol and everyone involved in the project!

          4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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          • quicksilverQ
            quicksilver
            last edited by

            Anyone who wants the latest info on the pi 4 can check out this thread on the pi forums. Looks like the engineers are answering questions there as well.

            https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=243372

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              frezeen
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              https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
              benchmarks

              https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
              a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document

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                hhromic
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                According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
                https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978

                No. Double.
                DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.

                While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!

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                • quicksilverQ
                  quicksilver @frezeen
                  last edited by

                  @frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.

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                    Barcrest @frezeen
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                    @frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.

                    His video is here for those that are interested.

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                      hhromic
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                      Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                      https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                      Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                      That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

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                      • quicksilverQ
                        quicksilver
                        last edited by

                        Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

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                          frezeen
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                          real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd

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                            Barcrest @quicksilver
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                            @quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                            Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?

                            My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.

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                            • sirhenrythe5thS
                              sirhenrythe5th @quicksilver
                              last edited by sirhenrythe5th

                              @quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
                              IMO 55$ is not that much.
                              So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons?

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                              • quicksilverQ
                                quicksilver @sirhenrythe5th
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                                @sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.

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                                • dankcushionsD
                                  dankcushions Global Moderator @hhromic
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                                  @hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                  Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:

                                  https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1484079&sid=6a51b0b723d68f240f03c3ffe2c7c0e5#p1484079

                                  Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.

                                  That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in lr-mupen64plus-next.

                                  hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).

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                                  • AddisonA
                                    Addison
                                    last edited by

                                    Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?

                                    $16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.

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                                      mat
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                                      This is great news, I have been wondering if a Pi 4 would come out and to come online this morning is like christmas.

                                      Now I just have to wait till I can order one since I don't want to overpay.

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                                      • hooperreH
                                        hooperre @Addison
                                        last edited by hooperre

                                        @Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:

                                        Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?

                                        $16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.

                                        They've done it with all the other pi's and iirc they are direct through the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but I think they supply Microcenter and Adafruit and the like first. Amazon seemed like the last to get the 3B+.

                                        4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                        • lilbudL
                                          lilbud
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm definitely going to hold out on this one. Mainly because I moved the majority of my emulation to my desktop PC (to keep things simple, and to limit trips running up and down stairs to my different setups.)

                                          This was a very pleasant and unexpected surprise for today. I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?

                                          Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

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                                          • DarksaviorD
                                            Darksavior @quicksilver
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                                            @quicksilver I'm ordering the 2GB when I can find a site with decent shipping. I'm hoping to minimize the loading of the box art with the pegasus frontend since I'm using higher quality box art. I don't see a reason to get the 4GB unless I plan to use it as a desktop. Might help with attract mode setups too.

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