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    pjft @meleu
    last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 19:11

    @meleu thanks, I was not aware of this at all! :)

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      dankcushions Global Moderator @pjft
      last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 20:44

      @pjft said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

      @dankcushions I was under that impression, but just tested it and it seems to only save the "core" options - i.e. the options in that particular menu, or sub-menu tree.

      It does not seem to store the options from the "Settings" section - I did a simple test of changing the Integer Scale On/Off, and didn't seem to change - or at least load back.

      I do have that for the Frameskip settings in some games - maybe even per your suggestion in a separate thread :)

      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/4524/per-rom-core-config-file

      Unless you're not referring to the per-core options thingie this time around.

      nope :) core options are separate from general settings, as you've found. what i'm talking about is per game general settings (like overlay settings, for example)

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        mediamogul Global Moderator
        last edited by mediamogul 16 Dec 2016, 20:59

        dankcushions said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

        what i'm talking about is per game general settings

        This ability is so incredibly useful. I use it to fine-tune all manner of performance options for a lot of games.

        RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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          meleu
          last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 22:32

          One more frenzy session this evening and this was my best results:

          0_1481927514656_frenzy.png

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            pjft @mediamogul
            last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 22:35

            @meleu good scores! I haven't had the chance to play anymore so I ended with that score I posted earlier.

            @mediamogul @dankcushions OK, so I'm curious now. Where do I find such option, or how do I make it work?

            The only other saving options seem to be save configuration, and save new configuration, but they always seem to go to a retroarchxxx file. Maybe there's a setting I need to enable somewhere?

            So much learning, haha!

            Thanks all.

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              dankcushions Global Moderator @pjft
              last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 22:58

              @pjft said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

              @meleu good scores! I haven't had the chance to play anymore so I ended with that score I posted earlier.

              @mediamogul @dankcushions OK, so I'm curious now. Where do I find such option, or how do I make it work?

              The only other saving options seem to be save configuration, and save new configuration, but they always seem to go to a retroarchxxx file. Maybe there's a setting I need to enable somewhere?

              So much learning, haha!

              Thanks all.

              quick menu > save game overrides

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                pjft @dankcushions
                last edited by 16 Dec 2016, 23:11

                @dankcushions thanks. I'm starting to think it may be a retroarch version thing. I'm on 4.0.2 I believe. My upgrade to 4.1 botched up my system so I ended up rolling back to a backup.

                I'll dig into it.

                Thank you sir!

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                  lilbud
                  last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 00:19

                  One of my first attempts:
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                  This game is damn hard. Once they start shooting and banking their shots, you don't stand much of a chance.

                  Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade

                  Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud

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                    meleu @lilbud
                    last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 00:24

                    @lilbud said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

                    Once they start shooting and banking their shots, you don't stand much of a chance.

                    Following the "always look on the bright side of life" way of life: the good thing is that when they shoot each other you still earn the points.

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                      GtBFilms @pjft
                      last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 01:32

                      @pjft

                      Thanks, yes I did have 'Configuration Save on Exit" set to YES in RetroArch!

                      I switched it off, but the issue still remains.

                      0_1481937815427_IMG_20161217_011151.jpg

                      I noticed that under basic libretro settings, the overlay was set to Unset, but on the arcade specific libretro settings, it was still set to use the Frenzy overlay.

                      0_1481937958564_IMG_20161217_011501.jpg

                      0_1481937964119_IMG_20161217_011512.jpg

                      I unset that, and games were fine (no overlay) until I play Frenzy (with an overlay), at which point it sets the arcade overlay setting back to use frenzy by default, and all games end up with the Frenzy overlay!

                      0_1481938245425_IMG_20161217_011733.jpg

                      Am I setting the retroarch autosave on exit option wrongly do you think?

                      It's not a major issue, the bezels all work fine on my other setup, just my Picade that seems to be confused.

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                        meleu @GtBFilms
                        last edited by meleu 17 Dec 2016, 01:49

                        @GtBFilms said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

                        yes I did have 'Configuration Save on Exit" set to YES in RetroArch!
                        I switched it off, but the issue still remains.

                        This is exactly the problem. Once you enabled it, and started using various cores, there's a big chance that you messed up your various retroarch.cfg files. Maybe this post here can clarify this issue for you:
                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/1714/retroarch-config-confusion-and-issues/2

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                          pjft @GtBFilms
                          last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 04:39

                          @GtBFilms I think you're doing it right. There maybe just a place - or a few - where the save on exit setting still remains.

                          The best way to do it is to repeat all those steps, and one by one at each step open the emulator and see on the menu whether it's set to save on exit. That'll tell you if there's more than one file you need to change. The save hierarchy and file locations should be described in @meleu 's post (on my mobile, sorry for lack of copy and paste).

                          Best of luck!

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                            UDb23
                            last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 18:43

                            Complete Artwork Pack for Frenzy created; in addition to the previous overlay it includes:

                            • new Overlay for Integer Scale ON (max scale @ 1080p)

                            • rom launch splashscreen

                            • original game Flyer image, for ES theme's detailed view (made for Carbon but should work with other themes)

                            Pics and download here.

                            Let me know what you think about "Artwork pack" concept.

                            Have fun!

                            P.S. As I used time to make this... my Frenzy score is still bad.. about 3400...

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                              meleu @UDb23
                              last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 19:05

                              @UDb23 said in MAME ROW #12: Frenzy:

                              my Frenzy score is still bad.. about 3400...

                              But you are the winner!! :-)

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                                meleu
                                last edited by 17 Dec 2016, 21:29

                                The new overlay made me try harder, but I couldn't beat @GtBFilms ' hi-score: 7170

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                                  GtBFilms @meleu
                                  last edited by GtBFilms 18 Dec 2016, 00:47

                                  @meleu Awesome, thanks for that, I read your post, and the penny dropped when I read:

                                  "each libretro-core loads its own specific retroarch.cfg file. Now go and take a look at some of these retroarch.cfg files. (in /opt/retropie/configs/SYSTEMNAME/retroarch.cfg)

                                  All my ROMS are in the arcade directory, so I looked at:

                                  /opt/retropie/configs/arcade/retroarch.cfg using WinSCP to edit the file, because it's pretty big and my Linux text editor skills are a bit rusty.

                                  Sure enough, searching for 'exit' brought up the following:

                                  config_save_on_exit = "true"

                                  Even though I presumed setting it in the Retroarch settings available via the RetroPie Setup menu would have switched this off."

                                  I changed the setting in the editor to:

                                  config_save_on_exit = "false"

                                  Problem solved! I get the Frenzy marquee while playing marquee, but no longer get the Frenzy marquee being overlaid on other games as well.

                                  Thank-you very much for your patience and help, everyone!

                                  I understand a little more about RetroArch now, I think this explains some issues myself and a friend had with stubborn CRT shaders as well.

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                                    meleu @GtBFilms
                                    last edited by meleu 18 Dec 2016, 08:54

                                    @GtBFilms I'm afraid that just setting config_save_on_exit to false on your big arcade/retroarch.cfg file is not the best solution. Look at this part of my post:

                                    Keep in mind that the config uses the "first match if finds" approach, so for you override a global config, keep the #include line at the end of file.

                                    So if you change something on your global all/retroarch.cfg, probably these changings won't reach the arcade/retroarch.cfg because this file is full of settings and probably the #include is at the last line. My suggestion is to put only this content on your arcade/retroarch.cfg:

                                    # Settings made here will only override settings in the global retroarch.cfg if placed above the #include line
                                    
                                    input_remapping_directory = "/opt/retropie/configs/arcade/"
                                    
                                    #include "/opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg"
                                    

                                    Cheers!

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                                      R1n0X
                                      last edited by R1n0X 19 Dec 2016, 02:00

                                      SCORE: 5806
                                      Meego T07 / Windows 10 / MAME 0.139

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                                        meleu @R1n0X
                                        last edited by 19 Dec 2016, 02:09

                                        @R1n0X I was only waiting your score to post the MAME ROW #13: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6337/mame-row-13

                                        Cheers!

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                                          MisterMeeseeks
                                          last edited by 19 Dec 2016, 05:22

                                          Hope I am not too late, I have been following MAME ROW for a few weeks now, but just registered my account to start posting.

                                          Frenzy was a tough game, after several tries the best I could do was 4336.

                                          Looking forward to being more active in the next one!

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