How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie)
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@leorj76 I just added Bomberman 64 and am using the same emulator. When I launch it it hangs on a black screen for about 30 seconds but eventually loads. One thing I notice is your Video Mode 1366x768... that is not a native resolution for a television. Are you using a television or monitor as a display? If you are using a TV change the video mode to 640x480 4:3 CEA 1
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OK, trying to play it it is glitching like crazy. Jumping to blue screens, white screens, then displaying, sound stuttering like crazy.
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Here's a compatibility list with some settings suggestions. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e9o3sNLKxlUBDDG6Sr0n6VBwAgwlFGPYr8Al46MdAqE/edit#gid=1242182066
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Been mucking around with this more. I just can't get it playable on my stock Pi 3. I give up. That's why I don't play too much N64! I just don't think it's worth the effort to get running, there are no games on it I miss so much that I just HAVE to have. Anyway, good luck! You'll need it.
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Update setup script and do a binary update. Use GLideN64.
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@gizmo98 I'll do it, thanks.
@AlexMurphy I use TV LG LCD 29" I will try change TV Mode, thanks. Before Update 4.2 it worked.
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@gizmo98 and @AlexMurphy I tried, I followed the suggestions, but gave black screen. See the video:
Notice that in the video shows that I played for 43 minutes, it was in Retropie 4.1.
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Seems like this could be a good place to ask this...
Is the Rice plugin still being developed?
It might be a rom issue, @leorj76.
I am able to run Bomberman 64 with Rice plugin.
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I'm will test other ROMs, thanks.
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@Allanbuzzy Yes realistically a perfectly coded and optimized N64 emulator should run extremely well on the Pi. N64 emulation isn't easy though, due to the hardware quirks of the system. PSP and Dreamcast are pushing it though I think. Some PSP games run well I've noticed, as long as you do not increase the resolution. I know the Dreamcast FPU was very powerful for the time, and if I remember the numbers correctly, even the quad-core ARMv8 in the Pi3 cannot match it when we get down to the FLOPS. Some games may still run well, but games that used the SH4 FPU heavily, I wouldn't count on it. A stronger GPU / CPU combination in say a future Pi4 will likely remedy some of these issues. I'm really picky when it comes to this stuff, and basically if it doesn't run nearly perfect, I won't run it at all. I'm not a big fan of endless hours of tweaking either, as who has the time for that, lol. Basically I run everything from Atari 2600 to PS1 currently, and it works like a dream. GPU heavy emulators suffer, and I think it's mainly the weak GPU which has been essentially the same since the first gen Pi.
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So, I tried different source, USA and Europe, but black screen again. Maybe I should expect a new Retropie update.
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So a few days later, I found out there is a better device that can emulate N64, heck it can run Dreamcast and PSP well, it's called Odroid XU4. It is a much better machine than a Raspberry Pi 3b, but to be honest, I can't seem to find a single place that I can get one (amazon is sold out) and even when I can find it, it's probably some risky shopping website. But still, RetroPie isn't made for it yet. I hope I can get this machine later on, but probably by the time I actually get the Odroid, The RetroPie team might actually fix N64 to run on normal Pi's without a required overclock. Mupen64Plus isn't good on a Mac either, the same problems happen there, but sixtyforce works okay, i'll use that until RetroPie runs N64 better.
"What do you play games on?"
"A LEGO brick."
"LEGO What? -
@AlexMurphy It's actually PA-TATER
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@Allanbuzzy "The RetroPie team might actually fix N64 to run on normal Pi's without a required overclock." - Are you actually serious? I genuinely hope this is just poor trolling.
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@AlexMurphy said in How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie):
@Allanbuzzy "The RetroPie team might actually fix N64 to run on normal Pi's without a required overclock." - Are you actually serious? I genuinely hope this is just poor trolling.
Just so you know, Mac's still have black transitions on Banjo Kazooie, this happens on the RPi as well. It's the emulator, mixed in with the power of the Pi. I'm hoping for an emulator that runs on low powered Raspberry Pis.
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@Allanbuzzy said in How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie):
@AlexMurphy said in How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie):
@Allanbuzzy "The RetroPie team might actually fix N64 to run on normal Pi's without a required overclock." - Are you actually serious? I genuinely hope this is just poor trolling.
Just so you know, Mac's still have black transitions on Banjo Kazooie, this happens on the RPi as well. It's the emulator, mixed in with the power of the Pi. I'm hoping for an emulator that runs on low powered Raspberry Pis.
Then write one. Seriously. The trolling is getting old. People have offered to help you set up the pi to the best of it's current abilities, yet you just spit at that and complain.
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@clouds-rival said in How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie):
Almost all of you went into apprehensive screeching autism mode right away
Not me. I made a gas noise and rolled my eyes like an adult.
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@clouds-rival said in How to improve on the N64, Dreamcast and PSP emulation (RetroPie):
instead of explaining that it's the specific emulators that need more tuning and not Retropie itself
because that’s not the reason.
ps, autism is not a punchline.
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Honestly, I think I must've made this thread as a joke or something. I apologise to those who were actually hoping for N64/DC/PSP emulation to be good, but the most easiest option to play this in a small form factor, would literally be a phone.
Like a S7 or something. Sure it isn't playing on the TV but there's Android boxes that are small and can literally do the same job as RetroPie. Until there's a powerful Pi 4 then, N64/DC/PSP will always be rubbish. I must've been high when I wrote this or something, but I apologise for causing a lot of controversy.
"What do you play games on?"
"A LEGO brick."
"LEGO What? -
Expectations generally seem to be way too high for new Pi users. No matter how much time and energy go into development and optimization, it never seems to be enough. It was probably unfair to give you both barrels here, but the harsh reality is that you just happened to be the four hundred, thirty seventh person to fall into that category. What may have exacerbated the situation further, is that you appeared to be asking for a solution to the problem as if many highly-dedicated people had not already worked very hard to get everything working as well as it already did. Miscommunications like this happen all the time. I doubt anyone has any truly strong feelings one way or another besides the guy who reopened the issue a year later just to git us all tolt.
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