Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo

Menion

Hi
The current FB Alpha libretro that we get from binary source in retropie-setup 4.4 (updated) is this new pre-v0.2.97.44? I am asking because according to the changelog some new games have been added, like Mortal Kombat. I have a verified rom set (verified against 0.2.97.44 dat file) but it won't load at all

barbudreadmon

@Menion said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

The current FB Alpha libretro that we get from binary source in retropie-setup 4.4 (updated) is this new pre-v0.2.97.44? I am asking because according to the changelog some new games have been added, like Mortal Kombat. I have a verified rom set (verified against 0.2.97.44 dat file) but it won't load at all

I have no idea what the pre-packaged version from retropie-setup is, however i would recommend building from sources and picking the dat from https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha/blob/master/dats/FB Alpha (ClrMame Pro XML%2C Arcade only).dat at the same time, so that you can be sure to have a romset matching your fbalpha version (as stated above, there are changes every few day/week).

On a sidenote, the midway mk/kinst drivers still need a lot of polishing in fbalpha, and considering one of the cpu interpreter needs a major rewrite, it might take a long time before it's at the level of other fbalpha drivers, you'll clearly have better emulation with mame2003-plus for those games.

barbudreadmon

@BuZz You might be interested in updating your build script, there are specific instructions to build the dynarec which allows to play killer instinct at full speed on x86_64, see bottom of https://github.com/libretro/fbalpha

BuZz

@barbudreadmon Thanks. Have made the change.

johnodon

Look at what I did Mom!

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Wrong Hashes
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·Wrong SHA1 ROMs 0
·Wrong MD5 ROMs 0
·Wrong SHA1 CHDs -
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hermit

has the 0.2.97.44 version been released? thanks

GreenHawk84

Hello,

Just trying to understand this thread. I just installed Stretch on 3B+ fresh, and that comes with FBAlpha. Is that the "best" core of choice these days or should I be looking for FBAlpha2018? Looking for max compatibility and performance as usual.

UDb23

@GreenHawk84 I'd also check Mame2003plus.
In any case you need to update from source to get the latest version.

GreenHawk84

@UDb23 That was my next question. So the cores that come with the fresh Retropie 4.4 are not the latest? Aren't my cores updated when I use the Retropie Setup script to "Update all packages"?

I want to get on the right track for having the latest and greatest versions on my setup.

UDb23

@GreenHawk84 Fresh install+update all packages you'll only get latest final (non beta) versions (same as update from binary afaik).
Mame2003plus and FBA's latest versions, by updating from source, provide a lot of new features and new games support. Both are being updated quite often.

BuZz

@UDb23 the binaries were updated only a few weeks ago.

UDb23

@BuZz Wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

sirhenrythe5th

What is about this "Good Bye FinalBurn Alpha - welcome FB Neo" over there at libretro.com?
Achievements, much improved sound quality (i.e. Q-Sound now crystal clear), more games supported, faster emulation,...

Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

mitu

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

Sounds great in my ears, hope we will see it on the Pi some day

It's already on the Pi, as lr-fbalpha. It will be renamed as lr-fbneo shortly, but otherwise the code is just a continuation of the fbalpha project. There are more details in the libretro.com forum post, which outlines the reasons for the name change.

sirhenrythe5th

@mitu thanks once more mitu!!!

So it is the version we are talking here in this thread?
Then i allready use it for NeoGeo and some more games that dont work with AdvanceMame.

I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

barbudreadmon

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

I will have to test some CPS2 + 3 games to get an impression of the sound improvments.

There should be no change to CPS3.

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst

YM2151 is on the todo list, however i can't reproduce your issue, there might be something else causing it.

barbudreadmon

@sirhenrythe5th said in New FB Alpha libretro (pre-v0.2.97.44):

But what i also realized: with the update from. 43 to. 44 the sound quality of "Raiden DX" got worst.
I first checked if my speakers blew up 😊 but they were ok.
Sounds like crackling mono now ☺

I asked around and i confirm there was no change in sound quality for raidendx, so there are only a few possibilities :

You were previously using raidendx (or clone) and now you are using r2dx_v33 (or clone), the later is a cheap knock-off of the first with awfully bad sound (they removed 2 sound related boards out of the 3 the game originally had, the samplerate went down to 7742hz), btw both versions are mono.
There is some issue with your setup, it might be a lot of things, maybe your setup dislike this game's refresh rate (which is 55.407801Hz) ?
Your hardware is struggling (maybe the game eats more cpu now), try setting frameskip to 1 and let me know if it solves the cracklings.

sirhenrythe5th

@barbudreadmon thank you very much for your help!

I use raidendx.zip, so i guess the parent rom of this game.
I hope i dont have any issues with my setup, i really do anything to keep it clean and running (daily updates of OS and, as far as available, retropie-setup/all installed packages) no overclocking, no changing of sensible parameters and so on).

In the end i have this this issue only with RaidenDX and once.
I will check it again in the evening when i am home again, i had the same sound experience a couple of days ago with a game in AdvanceMame.
In this case i solved the problem: i use "auto normalize" in the audio-settings of AdvanceMame (which is a great option imo! ;) ) and in this specific case the volume was set to +18 which had the same crackling sound as result.

Now i think maybe i jumped too much between AdvanceMame and FBA so that the audio-mixer got a bit fuzzy.
I will check later as mentioned, maybe it was just a kind of loading error concerning the audio drivers.

Thx a lot again!!!

sirhenrythe5th

OK, no more issues :D

Yesterday i updated to 4.4.13 and within this update FBAlpha has been upgraded to FBNeo.
Took quite a long time, but was worth it indeed.
No more sound-issues with RaidenDX and i am really impressed about the Performance update.
NeoGeo in special is awesome now!!!

Maybe one thing should be mentioned: after the update you have to copy everything from "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fba" to "/home/pi/retropie/roms/fba/fbneo" to keep all the highscores and BIOS-Setups of NEOGEO.

Thanks a lot, great job!

BuZz

@sirhenrythe5th you may have installed it before I had the new binaries built. Should be able to install without building now on RPI.

Regarding folders. yeah, sorry - some changed. Also core options will need to be adjusted if you customised them before as old settings are not renamed.