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    • AndersHPA
      AndersHP
      last edited by

      I just want to let people know, that following the above mentioned lists and commandlines, I have succesfully merged MAME2003 (0.78)/FBA 0.2.97.42/ADVMAME 0.106 in my Arcade folder, and the best core are chosen for the best versions of games.

      I don't know how much maintenance it will demand on longer sight (probably manually editing a game at a time if something doesn't work), but for now, it's really great that everything is centralized and optimized for best core. Recommendations!

      My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
      My Gameboy

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      • mituM
        mitu Global Moderator @AndersHP
        last edited by mitu

        @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

        Recommendations!

        Cadillacs and Dinosaurs !

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        • strangerukS
          strangeruk
          last edited by

          Wow, this thread has been most useful in sorting out my arcade section! Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

          Being a Windows user I did a slightly different approach in copying out the roms from my set via the text file list and did it with PowerShell. For what it's worth, here's the command I used:

          $Files = Get-Content filename.txt
          $Dest = "PathTo:\Desired\Rom\Folder"
          
          foreach ($File in $Files) {
            Copy-Item $File $Dest
          }
          

          Once again thanks to everyone who contributed in this thread.

          PS. I'd also recommend Knuckle Bash for comedy value.

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          • robotronmanR
            robotronman
            last edited by

            Hi All,

            I totally agree with @strangeruk here. This thread has been super helpful. Big thanks to @dudleydes, @AndersHP and @Pussyfoot for their contributions.

            I too use windows to administer my Retropie systems and have a tip for using @dudleydes UNIX commands directly from Windows.

            First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

            Gow (Gnu On Windows) is the lightweight alternative to Cygwin. It uses a convenient NSIS installer that installs over 100 extremely useful open source UNIX applications compiled as native win32 binaries. It is designed to be as small as possible, about 18 MB, as opposed to Cygwin which can run well over 100 MB depending upon options.

            This tool is unbelievably awesome, and lets you run xargs and cp and many other UNIX commands right on your Windows machine. I've successfully used @dudleydes process above on Windows to filter my lists and files quickly and efficiently.

            Bravo guys, awesome work!
            robotronman

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            • pjftP
              pjft @robotronman
              last edited by

              @robotronman said in FBA vs. MAME:

              First download and install Gow found here: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/releases/

              Thank you for the tip! Had been looking for something like this for a while - I had something similar in the past, but I completely forgot the name of what I was using then, so this comes in handy!

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              • johnodonJ
                johnodon
                last edited by

                Just wanted to say that this thread is awesome and exactly what I was looking for. Replying so I don't lose it again! :)

                Thank you all for the hard work!

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                • AndersHPA
                  AndersHP
                  last edited by

                  I'm really enjoying my new arcade folder also.

                  To tidy things up completely, it could have been nice to base the lists on the non-mahjong and non-adult DAT files, but I guess that's just personal taste.

                  My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                  My Gameboy

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                  • johnodonJ
                    johnodon
                    last edited by

                    What do you guys think about adding the Neogeo set under FBA?

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                    • AndersHPA
                      AndersHP @johnodon
                      last edited by

                      @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                      Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                      My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                      My Gameboy

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                      • johnodonJ
                        johnodon @AndersHP
                        last edited by

                        @andershp said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        @johnodon if anyone has a NeoGeo gamelist with zip files listed, I can make an FBA list with these included.

                        Personally, I like to have NeoGeo games listed under the NeoGeo system folder.

                        I think this is close to all of them (bios file removed from list):

                        2020bb.zip
                        3countb.zip
                        alpham2.zip
                        androdun.zip
                        aodk.zip
                        aof.zip
                        aof2.zip
                        aof3.zip
                        bangbead.zip
                        bjourney.zip
                        blazstar.zip
                        breakrev.zip
                        bstars.zip
                        bstars2.zip
                        burningf.zip
                        crsword.zip
                        ctomaday.zip
                        cyberlip.zip
                        doubledr.zip
                        eightman.zip
                        fatfursp.zip
                        fatfury1.zip
                        fatfury2.zip
                        fatfury3.zip
                        fbfrenzy.zip
                        fightfev.zip
                        flipshot.zip
                        galaxyfg.zip
                        ganryu.zip
                        garou.zip
                        ghostlop.zip
                        goalx3.zip
                        gowcaizr.zip
                        gpilots.zip
                        gururin.zip
                        irrmaze.zip
                        joyjoy.zip
                        kabukikl.zip
                        karnovr.zip
                        kizuna.zip
                        kof2000.zip
                        kof2001.zip
                        kof2002.zip
                        kof2003.zip
                        kof94.zip
                        kof95.zip
                        kof96.zip
                        kof97.zip
                        kof98.zip
                        kof99.zip
                        kotm.zip
                        kotm2.zip
                        lastblad.zip
                        lastbld2.zip
                        lbowling.zip
                        legendos.zip
                        lresort.zip
                        magdrop2.zip
                        magdrop3.zip
                        maglord.zip
                        matrim.zip
                        miexchng.zip
                        mslug.zip
                        mslug2.zip
                        mslug3.zip
                        mslug4.zip
                        mslug5.zip
                        mslugx.zip
                        mutnat.zip
                        nam1975.zip
                        ncombat.zip
                        ncommand.zip
                        neobombe.zip
                        neocup98.zip
                        neodrift.zip
                        neomrdo.zip
                        ninjamas.zip
                        nitd.zip
                        overtop.zip
                        panicbom.zip
                        pbobbl2n.zip
                        pbobblen.zip
                        pgoal.zip
                        pnyaa.zip
                        popbounc.zip
                        preisle2.zip
                        pspikes2.zip
                        pulstar.zip
                        puzzledp.zip
                        rbff1.zip
                        rbff2.zip
                        rbffspec.zip
                        ridhero.zip
                        roboarmy.zip
                        rotd.zip
                        s1945p.zip
                        samsh5sp.zip
                        samsho.zip
                        samsho2.zip
                        samsho3.zip
                        samsho4.zip
                        samsho5.zip
                        savagere.zip
                        sdodgeb.zip
                        sengoku.zip
                        sengoku2.zip
                        sengoku3.zip
                        shocktr2.zip
                        shocktro.zip
                        socbrawl.zip
                        sonicwi2.zip
                        sonicwi3.zip
                        spinmast.zip
                        ssideki.zip
                        ssideki2.zip
                        ssideki3.zip
                        ssideki4.zip
                        stakwin.zip
                        stakwin2.zip
                        strhoop.zip
                        superspy.zip
                        tophuntr.zip
                        tpgolf.zip
                        turfmast.zip
                        twinspri.zip
                        tws96.zip
                        viewpoin.zip
                        wakuwak7.zip
                        wh1.zip
                        wh2.zip
                        wh2j.zip
                        whp.zip
                        wjammers.zip
                        zedblade.zip
                        zupapa.zip

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                        • AndersHPA
                          AndersHP @johnodon
                          last edited by AndersHP

                          @johnodon I've added an lr-fbalpha list including NeoGeo games here. Hope this is helpful.

                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                          My Gameboy

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                          • johnodonJ
                            johnodon
                            last edited by johnodon

                            If anyone wants a shortcut to all of this, here is a link to my emulators.cfg. If you see anything wrong, let me know.

                            https://pastebin.com/NJNcqmH5

                            2278 games total
                            43 advmame
                            1613 lr-fbalpha
                            640 lr-mame2003
                            2 lr-mame2010

                            John

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                              barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                              @andershp You mention "sound glitches" in rtype and gyruss, could you be a little more precise ? Also, those glitches happen with any sound setting (samplerate, sample interpolation & fm interpolation) in the core options ?
                              Those games should run flawlessly considering their cpu usage, so perhaps there is some glitch which needs to be reported to the fbalpha team.

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              • tashmanT
                                tashman
                                last edited by

                                I'm not sure if anyone is keeping a definitive list but in addition - footchmp.zip, euroch92.zip and hattrick.zip all have poor sound in the intros and for the in game "voice over" in lr-fbalpha. No issues in lr-mame2003/2010 and mame4all (Rpi 3 stock settings). It may improve with tweaks but it's better to choose an emulator that works right away.

                                Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                                Also a massive thanks to everyone involved in putting all this together. It has kept me busy this weekend!

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                                  barbudreadmon @tashman
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                                  @tashman said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                  Is it worth reporting these to the FBA alpha team?

                                  If this is bad enough to make people choose another emulator, i think it is.
                                  Btw, hattrick can't have poor sound in fba since it is not emulated at all.

                                  FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                  • tashmanT
                                    tashman @barbudreadmon
                                    last edited by

                                    @barbudreadmon to be honest I made the assumption about hattrick as it's the same game.

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                                      barbudreadmon
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                                      @AndersHP @tashman So i tried rtype, footchmp, euroch92 and gyruss in mame2003, and while i didn't notice the "poor sound" or "sound glitches" you mentioned for the first 3, there is definitely something off with fbalpha's gyruss sound, so i bumped an old topic about gyruss sound upstream : http://neo-source.com/index.php?topic=2490.0

                                      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                        barbudreadmon
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                                        @AndersHP The difference between mame and fbalpha for gyruss is only the balance, i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                        PS : i still don't know what are your sound glitches in rtype.

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                        • AndersHPA
                                          AndersHP
                                          last edited by AndersHP

                                          Sorry for being so passive here, I will check these out ASAP.
                                          As for Gyruss, it's the spawning sound that's off in fba. Very fuzzy. It's much better and sharper sounding in MAME2003.

                                          Rtype I had actual soundglitches in, but will test again soon.

                                          @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                          i just patched it in lr-fbalpha, let me know what do you think about the new one.

                                          How do I get this? Just update my lr-fbalpha emulator? Or are we talking new romsets?

                                          My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                          My Gameboy

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                                            barbudreadmon @AndersHP
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                                            @andershp just update from sources

                                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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