The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!
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Anyone who wants the latest info on the pi 4 can check out this thread on the pi forums. Looks like the engineers are answering questions there as well.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=243372
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https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
benchmarkshttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document -
According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978No. Double.
DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!
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@frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.
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@frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.
His video is here for those that are interested.
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Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next. -
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
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real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd
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@quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.
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@quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
IMO 55$ is not that much.
So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons? -
@sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.
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@hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next.hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).
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Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
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This is great news, I have been wondering if a Pi 4 would come out and to come online this morning is like christmas.
Now I just have to wait till I can order one since I don't want to overpay.
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@Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
They've done it with all the other pi's and iirc they are direct through the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but I think they supply Microcenter and Adafruit and the like first. Amazon seemed like the last to get the 3B+.
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I'm definitely going to hold out on this one. Mainly because I moved the majority of my emulation to my desktop PC (to keep things simple, and to limit trips running up and down stairs to my different setups.)
This was a very pleasant and unexpected surprise for today. I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?
Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade
Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud
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@quicksilver I'm ordering the 2GB when I can find a site with decent shipping. I'm hoping to minimize the loading of the box art with the pegasus frontend since I'm using higher quality box art. I don't see a reason to get the 4GB unless I plan to use it as a desktop. Might help with attract mode setups too.
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@lilbud said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?
This was linked above: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
Scroll down to the benchmarks section and you can see there is massive improvements in performance compared to the 3 b+!
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@dankcushions are you sure pcsx-beetle-hw works? If I'm not wrong it doesn't work on ARM CPUs
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@Chuck_B obviously i'm not sure about anything, i'm just speculating :) but yeah i think it will need to wait for the ARM dynarec in that instance.
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