The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!
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https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
benchmarkshttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document -
According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978No. Double.
DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!
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@frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.
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@frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.
His video is here for those that are interested.
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Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next. -
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
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real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd
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@quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.
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@quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
IMO 55$ is not that much.
So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons? -
@sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.
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@hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next.hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).
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Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
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This is great news, I have been wondering if a Pi 4 would come out and to come online this morning is like christmas.
Now I just have to wait till I can order one since I don't want to overpay.
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@Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
They've done it with all the other pi's and iirc they are direct through the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but I think they supply Microcenter and Adafruit and the like first. Amazon seemed like the last to get the 3B+.
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I'm definitely going to hold out on this one. Mainly because I moved the majority of my emulation to my desktop PC (to keep things simple, and to limit trips running up and down stairs to my different setups.)
This was a very pleasant and unexpected surprise for today. I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?
Creator of the Radiocade: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/6077/radiocade
Backlog: http://backloggery.com/lilbud
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@quicksilver I'm ordering the 2GB when I can find a site with decent shipping. I'm hoping to minimize the loading of the box art with the pegasus frontend since I'm using higher quality box art. I don't see a reason to get the 4GB unless I plan to use it as a desktop. Might help with attract mode setups too.
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@lilbud said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
I would like to see the gaming performance with the 2 & 4gb version, while it is more horsepower, is there really any great performance bump?
This was linked above: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
Scroll down to the benchmarks section and you can see there is massive improvements in performance compared to the 3 b+!
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@dankcushions are you sure pcsx-beetle-hw works? If I'm not wrong it doesn't work on ARM CPUs
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@Chuck_B obviously i'm not sure about anything, i'm just speculating :) but yeah i think it will need to wait for the ARM dynarec in that instance.
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@dankcushions said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
@hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next.hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).
As far as I understand, m4xw implemented an aarch64 dynarec for mupen64plus-next that is the one actually used for the Switch (his main target platform). This dynarec is independent of the existing 32bits dynarec.
At some point we were discussing if testing that on an aarch64 RPI3 image such as this or this to see how it goes, but ultimately didn't happen because of all the issues/headaches that non-official images potentially have.
But if the foundation is going to release a well-supported 64 bits Raspbian version, then definitively I would like to see how this dynarec goes there.
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