The most safe is to backup the roms, bios files and start a fresh install of RetroPie for Rpi4.

https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Updating-RetroPie/?h=backup#backup-option-2

@Rocket I would suggest probably a different rom source. If these are for sure known-good roms (for example working in another emulator on a PC), then please supply a verbose log of one that isn't working in RetroPie.

https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Runcommand/#launch-with-verbose-logging

@sleve_mcdichael Iv turned the joystick round, wired them both the same on the decoder, reconfigured. Tryed the joystick and seems ok, so just gotta play a few games when i can get the time now, i still gotta do the christmas thing, but should find out in a bit. thanks for your help

@mitu
Hi
Thank you for your help.
I will try and rebuild the image from scratch.
Thanks again.

Lee

Please fill out the info requested in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first - what Pi model ? RetroPie version ? Power source used ? etc.

The only crash I've seen in the last few years with EmulationStation was related to controllers disconnecting/reconnecting due to faulty USB connection or due to insufficient power fed to the Pi. Run emulationstation by typing emulationstation --debug at the prompt (after it crashes) and then post the error that it prints on the terminal after it crashes the 2nd time.

When you say menu things, do you mean access into the RetroArch menu when missing an X or Y button?

You can remap the controllers configs inside /opt/RetroPie/configs/all/ (think it's called joysticks or joypads) then edit the lines like "input_toggle_menu" to the a or b button so you can access that?

Assuming you only have a couple of controllers doing it once or twice would solve that. If you are mapping loads on emulationstation you could change the RetroArch.sh mapping file so when you map something in emulationstation it maps your chosen button to those hotkeys. For example button b being a reset hotkey, for button mashers that's a nightmare for me so I usually get rid of that mapping for the entire emulationstation -> Retroarch.sh mapping file.

@mitu
Fixed, using MC I could see everything, just my folder structures were wrong and so nothing was showing up, quick rearrangement and it's all good.

Thank you for your help.

This is my log when using the HDMI output
[INFO] [Config]: Loading config from: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/retroarch.cfg".
[INFO] RetroArch 1.10.0 (Git e9e85f3d07)
[INFO] === Build =======================================
[INFO] Capabilities: NEON VFPv3 VFPv4
[INFO] Built: Sep 21 2023
[INFO] Version: 1.10.0
[INFO] Git: e9e85f3d07
[INFO] =================================================
[INFO] [Input]: Found input driver: "udev".
[INFO] [Core]: Loading dynamic libretro core from: "/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-fceumm/fceumm_libretro.so"
[INFO] [Overrides]: No core-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/FCEUmm.cfg".
[INFO] [Overrides]: No content-dir-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/Game Titles - #-Z.cfg".
[INFO] [Overrides]: No game-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/3-D WorldRunner.cfg".
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_CONTROLLER_INFO.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_VFS_INTERFACE. Core requested version >= V1, providing V3.
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_SET_CONTENT_INFO_OVERRIDE.
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'fds' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'nes' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'unf' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'unif' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Remaps]: Remap directory: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/".
[INFO] [Overrides]: Redirecting save file to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.srm".
[INFO] [Overrides]: Redirecting save state to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.state".
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LOG_INTERFACE.
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_SUPPORT_ACHIEVEMENTS: yes.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_MESSAGE_INTERFACE_VERSION.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LANGUAGE: "0".
[INFO] [Content]: Loading content file: "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.zip#3-D WorldRunner.nes".
[INFO] [Content]: Did not find a valid content patch.
[INFO] [Content]: CRC32: 0xd5ada486.
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_GET_GAME_INFO_EXT.
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_PIXEL_FORMAT: RGB565.
[libretro INFO] Frontend supports RGB565 - will use that instead of XRGB1555.
[INFO] [Environ]: PERFORMANCE_LEVEL: 5.
[INFO] [Environ]: SYSTEM_DIRECTORY: "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS".
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_CORE_OPTIONS_VERSION.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LANGUAGE: "0".
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_SET_CORE_OPTIONS_V2_INTL.
[libretro INFO] FCEU_MakeFName: /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/nes.pal
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_INPUT_DESCRIPTORS:
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_MEMORY_MAPS.
[INFO] [SRAM]: Skipping SRAM load.
[INFO] [Core]: Version of libretro API: 1, Compiled against API: 1
[INFO] [Audio]: Set audio input rate to: 48000.00 Hz.
[INFO] [Video]: Timings deviate too much. Will not adjust. (Display = 50.00 Hz, Game = 60.10 Hz)
[INFO] [Video]: Game FPS > Monitor FPS. Cannot rely on VSync.
[INFO] [Video]: Set video size to: 879x672.
[INFO] [Video]: Starting threaded video driver ...
[INFO] [EGL] Falling back to eglGetDisplay
[INFO] [EGL]: EGL version: 1.4
[INFO] [EGL]: Current context: 0x1.
[INFO] [GL]: Found GL context: "egl_videocore".
[INFO] [GL]: Detecting screen resolution: 720x576.
[INFO] [GL]: Vendor: Broadcom, Renderer: VideoCore IV HW.
[INFO] [GL]: Version: OpenGL ES 2.0.
[INFO] Querying EGL extension: KHR_image => exists
[INFO] [GL]: Using resolution 720x576.
[INFO] [GL]: Default shader backend found: glsl.
[INFO] [Shader driver]: Using GLSL shader backend.
[INFO] [Shader driver]: Using GLSL shader backend.
[WARN] [GL]: Stock GLSL shaders will be used.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GL]: Using 4 textures.
[INFO] [GL]: Loaded 1 program(s).
[INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: "freetype".
[INFO] [Video]: Graphics driver did not initialize an input driver. Attempting to pick a suitable driver.
[WARN] [udev]: Couldn't open any keyboard, mouse or touchpad. Are permissions set correctly for /dev/input/event*?
[WARN] [udev]: Full-screen pointer won't be available.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #0 (/dev/input/event0) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #1 (/dev/input/event1) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #2 (/dev/input/event2) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #3 (/dev/input/event3) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [Joypad]: Found joypad driver: "udev".
[INFO] [Video]: Found display server: "null".
[INFO] ALSA: Using floating point format.
[INFO] ALSA: Period size: 384 frames
[INFO] ALSA: Buffer size: 1536 frames
[INFO] [Display]: Found display driver: "gl".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[libretro INFO] Player 1: Gamepad
[libretro INFO] Player 2: Gamepad
[libretro INFO] Player 3: None Connected
[libretro INFO] Player 4: None Connected
[libretro INFO] Famicom Expansion: None Connected
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_music_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_video_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_image_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading favorites file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_favorites.lpl".
[INFO] [Config]: Saved new config to "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/retroarch.cfg".
[INFO] [Core]: Content ran for a total of: 00 hours, 01 minutes, 58 seconds.
[INFO] [Core]: Unloading game..
[INFO] [Core]: Unloading core..
[INFO] [Core]: Unloading core symbols..
[INFO] [Core]: Saved core options file to "/opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch-core-options.cfg".
[INFO] Threaded video stats: Frames pushed: 7114, Frames dropped: 2.

And this is when composite is the output
[INFO] [Config]: Loading config from: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/retroarch.cfg".
[INFO] RetroArch 1.10.0 (Git e9e85f3d07)
[INFO] === Build =======================================
[INFO] Capabilities: NEON VFPv3 VFPv4
[INFO] Built: Sep 21 2023
[INFO] Version: 1.10.0
[INFO] Git: e9e85f3d07
[INFO] =================================================
[INFO] [Input]: Found input driver: "udev".
[INFO] [Core]: Loading dynamic libretro core from: "/opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-fceumm/fceumm_libretro.so"
[INFO] [Overrides]: No core-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/FCEUmm.cfg".
[INFO] [Overrides]: No content-dir-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/Game Titles - #-Z.cfg".
[INFO] [Overrides]: No game-specific overrides found at "/home/pi/.config/retroarch/config/FCEUmm/3-D WorldRunner.cfg".
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_CONTROLLER_INFO.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_VFS_INTERFACE. Core requested version >= V1, providing V3.
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_SET_CONTENT_INFO_OVERRIDE.
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'fds' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'nes' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'unf' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Content Override]: File Extension: 'unif' - need_fullpath: FALSE, persistent_data: FALSE
[INFO] [Remaps]: Remap directory: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/".
[INFO] [Overrides]: Redirecting save file to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.srm".
[INFO] [Overrides]: Redirecting save state to "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.state".
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LOG_INTERFACE.
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_SUPPORT_ACHIEVEMENTS: yes.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_MESSAGE_INTERFACE_VERSION.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LANGUAGE: "0".
[INFO] [Content]: Loading content file: "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/nes/Game Titles - #-Z/3-D WorldRunner.zip#3-D WorldRunner.nes".
[INFO] [Content]: Did not find a valid content patch.
[INFO] [Content]: CRC32: 0xd5ada486.
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_GET_GAME_INFO_EXT.
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_PIXEL_FORMAT: RGB565.
[libretro INFO] Frontend supports RGB565 - will use that instead of XRGB1555.
[INFO] [Environ]: PERFORMANCE_LEVEL: 5.
[INFO] [Environ]: SYSTEM_DIRECTORY: "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS".
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_CORE_OPTIONS_VERSION.
[INFO] [Environ]: GET_LANGUAGE: "0".
[INFO] [Environ]: RETRO_ENVIRONMENT_SET_CORE_OPTIONS_V2_INTL.
[libretro INFO] FCEU_MakeFName: /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/nes.pal
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_INPUT_DESCRIPTORS:
[INFO] [Environ]: SET_MEMORY_MAPS.
[INFO] [SRAM]: Skipping SRAM load.
[INFO] [Core]: Version of libretro API: 1, Compiled against API: 1
[INFO] [Audio]: Set audio input rate to: 48000.00 Hz.
[INFO] [Video]: Timings deviate too much. Will not adjust. (Display = 50.00 Hz, Game = 60.10 Hz)
[INFO] [Video]: Game FPS > Monitor FPS. Cannot rely on VSync.
[INFO] [Video]: Set video size to: 879x672.
[INFO] [Video]: Starting threaded video driver ...
[INFO] [EGL] Falling back to eglGetDisplay
[INFO] [EGL]: EGL version: 1.4
[INFO] [EGL]: Current context: 0x1.
[INFO] [GL]: Found GL context: "egl_videocore".
[INFO] [GL]: Detecting screen resolution: 720x576.
[INFO] [GL]: Vendor: Broadcom, Renderer: VideoCore IV HW.
[INFO] [GL]: Version: OpenGL ES 2.0.
[INFO] Querying EGL extension: KHR_image => exists
[INFO] [GL]: Using resolution 720x576.
[INFO] [GL]: Default shader backend found: glsl.
[INFO] [Shader driver]: Using GLSL shader backend.
[INFO] [Shader driver]: Using GLSL shader backend.
[WARN] [GL]: Stock GLSL shaders will be used.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL vertex shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Found GLSL fragment shader.
[INFO] Shader log: Compiled
[INFO] [GLSL]: Linking GLSL program.
[INFO] [GL]: Using 4 textures.
[INFO] [GL]: Loaded 1 program(s).
[INFO] [Font]: Using font rendering backend: "freetype".
[INFO] [Video]: Graphics driver did not initialize an input driver. Attempting to pick a suitable driver.
[WARN] [udev]: Couldn't open any keyboard, mouse or touchpad. Are permissions set correctly for /dev/input/event*?
[WARN] [udev]: Full-screen pointer won't be available.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #0 (/dev/input/event0) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #1 (/dev/input/event1) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #2 (/dev/input/event2) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [udev]: Pad #3 (/dev/input/event3) supports 0 force feedback effects.
[INFO] [Joypad]: Found joypad driver: "udev".
[INFO] [Video]: Found display server: "null".
[INFO] ALSA: Using floating point format.
[INFO] ALSA: Period size: 384 frames
[INFO] [Display]: Found display driver: "gl".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "freetype".
[ERROR] [Font]: Failed to create rendering backend: "stb-unicode".
[libretro INFO] Player 1: Gamepad
[libretro INFO] Player 2: Gamepad
[libretro INFO] Player 3: None Connected
[libretro INFO] Player 4: None Connected
[libretro INFO] Famicom Expansion: None Connected
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_music_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_video_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading history file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_image_history.lpl".
[INFO] [Playlist]: Loading favorites file: "/opt/retropie/configs/nes/content_favorites.lpl".

@mitu That fixed it, thank you.

@13ooty

I'm also new to posting on forums so I'm sorry If my writing and information is sloppy xD

@LLD said in Radiant Silvergun on Pi 4:

Could @roslof provide specific advmame settings if that's the case ? Or could it be that advmame changed since the edition of the sheet and gives now poorer performance for that game ?

Well, I can say that as of now, I also cannot get the game to run with either 2x or 3x magnification.

This is a Sega Titan game. It doesn't run well with any system, but still runs best with AdvMame. I've never had great success with the audio either. Always sounds "tinny" on the Pi4 builds, and why I have it at the bottom of the "recommendations" totem pole.

@retropieuser555 @LLD correct in that audio cannot easily be addressed. I added the note about ScreenUpdateSetting = 7 in the sheet. Note there is also a comment in there for Perfect Dark from @George-Spiggott

Could also try Next/640x360 16:9 with MSAA Level 2 (recommended by @George-Spiggott RetroPie forums)

Forgive that my pi is offline (building lr-mess) at the moment, but I recall Perfect Dark could not be perfectly emulated with any system and there were some sacrifices with any proposed solution.

@costas it’s controller priority. The usb ports take priority over the Bluetooth connection. You can change the which controller is which in the retro arch menus. As far as the resetting. It sounds like you set the hot key as either a or b. Reconfigure that controller in emulation station to make either select or the Xbox button the hot key.

@Blorpal said in Random movement in the game menus:

@Addison Does that work with a x86 computer or just the pi?

Oh man, it's been so long ago I can't remember what I did back then.

I didn't purchase a USB Hub or solder anything, I know that much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/7g2d0n/howto_fix_phantomghost_input_on_ibuffalobuffalo/

I still use the wired controllers on my Pi 4 since they're wonderful.

I do have the default Wi-Fi disabled and bought these instead for 8x faster speed:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PB1X4CN/

Don't think I can be of any help except for posting that first link I shared.

@owsey147 Your OS is outdated and no longer supported; currently only Debian 10 (Buster) is supported and, unfortunately, cannot be upgraded in-place.

In addition, is not practical to troubleshoot a system that neither you nor we have any idea how is configured. For this reason, purchased systems and other third-party builds are not supported in any capacity.

For both of these reasons, you will need to perform a fresh install of the latest supported version.

Start here: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/First-Installation

I suggest you to backup if able your existing roms and BIOS, and then install the current latest official image for your hardware from the website at https://retropie.org.uk/download. After the new version is installed, you can restore your backed up roms folder.

@mitu yes, each controller works if it's individually pluged