@dudleydes That's great information too. Thanks.

vice-64 works great for me on the RPI, played many games with it. I change the keyboard to positional instead of the default symbolic but I don't do any "remapping". I just use a bluetooth keyboard.

Unless it explicitly says otherwise C64 roms (and Amiga, Spectrum, CPC ... all the classic 'mostly' European home computer systems) are PAL and run at the correct speed and music pitch on an emulated PAL C64. The problem then becomes running a 50hz system against a fixed 60hz refresh rate LCD, causing jerky scrolling, which you solved by switching TV mode. 'Mostly' NTSC systems with NTSC romsets like SNES and Genesis need to run at 60hz though (otherwise it's jerky scrolling and wrong speed again, this time too slow), so there should be a way to dynamically switch refresh rate for each system. I'm working on it, but my bash scripting skills are low to non-existent :)

And yes, once you cross into 3D systems it's another ballgame completely.

Solved:
The reason was because somehow "Warp Mode" under Speed settings got activated.
After disabling it, the sound came back.

Just signed up and already glad I did! I'll be checking this out 100%. Absolutely love people keeping these platforms alive with homebrew.

no luck as of yet

I think I have zeroed-in on the issue (but not solved it yet). The missing puzzle piece was SDL.

Emulationstation is built on top of SDL, which has its own keyboard library. Something is not accounting for modifier keys: either the SDL the way emulationstation is written.
I think there is still hope as the debug log (see end) can see that both Arrow key and Shift and it even shows that my keys are mapped to both down and up in es_input.cfg. Just need to find a way to access that second option in some way.

Anyone has an idea how I can access the second value of my key, or knows their way around emulationstation source so I can add the function myself?

Edit:
I found where F4 is hardcoded for emulation station, which makes me think I can hardcode arrows + shifted arrows in a similar manner. It is not a great solution, but it is something...
The only problem I have is that I don't know how to build my own version of emulation station with the changes if I made a copy to my own github.

Also, I don't know SDL well enough to code it myself. Anyone able to translate my pseudocode into actual SDL and cpp?

IF keydown(shift) AND keydown(down) THEN return up END

Also, happy to hear any other solutions!

@dudleydes Thanks, I'll probably just have Omega Race and Oil Tycoon in there, but they will at least be shown in their true glory. :P

ok thanks, fool me i already known that video but i overlooked the save states parts!!

Hey thanks guys this really works with lr-vice!

I can map several keys to my retropad (I use a PS3 sisaxis), including the joystick swap and the virtual keyboard. I mapped Y,N,1,2,return,space,F!. Here is my configuration as an example (in the retroarch options menu):

show mapping options: on
hotkey toggle virtual: keyboard retrok_f11
hotkey switch joyports: retrok_rshift
retropad select: toggle vkbd
retropad start: retrok_rshift
retropad b: --- (=fire)
retropad a: retrok_return
retropad y: retrok_space
retropad x: retrok_f1
retropad L: retrok_1
retropad R: retrok_y
retropad L2: retrok_2
retropad R2: retrok_n

Also, if you have trouble inputting some letters in text-based games (like A or S), you must chose "physical keyboard pass-through: on" and everything will be OK.

@dudleydes said in mapping differentcontrollers for C64 emulator VICE:

@niculinux Is your EasySMX controller being detected by your Pi? Can you configure it in ES?

Yes, it is detected, but i have trouble setting the right trigger; once i got in the "configure input" menu and try to set it retropie skips it and reports it as "not assigned". But in the vice menu it is almost impossible to use :,(

Well I 100% agree with you. I use my retro pie as a controller only solution for the TV. I think a list of controller only compatible games for these systems is a great idea.

There are lots of fantastic games on the 8 bit and 16 bit computers that are never discovered by younger gamers or gamers in countries where the computers were not popular and everyone was on console instead. People avoid trying to emulate the old computers as lots of people play controller only.

By trial and error you can find games which don't need a keyboard. It would be great if more people played these games and discovered some of the many, many hidden gems on the 8 bit and 16 bit computers.

You can try now installing Vice, the bug has been fixed and building from source works.

@neo-rio said in Help needed: VICE x64 and xvic folder separation possible?:

Any chance of finally getting some more formal support for the other VICE 8-bit systems in Retropie?

Is there any reason why the other systems have mostly been ignored?

Some of us are vic20, plus 4 fans too

They are?

I created individual entries in the systems, pointed them to the appropriate folders for C16+4, Vic 20, Pet.

When launching one of the files, press the config button, launch with the correct version of Vice.

Vice loads in real-time, same as real hardware.
I tested this with Bruce Lee game, on both Pi and real C64 + Pi1541

@10vorne

It's part of vice-x64, but Emulation Station doesn't factor into it. It's set from within the vice-x64 settings menu.

Hmm ok thanks.
After fiddling with it a while, I was able to get a good controller mapping in stand-alone vice.

i'm afraid I cant find much on how to output to this from python. Im no coder, it needs to be call-able from python once Ive done with my process.

thanks for info!.. do you have any more?

Other options please! what other options do I have to get my character input into ES and retroarch please?

@whistlernl when i wired up my ipac in my apple iie pi i specifically programmed button a as enter and button b as space and start as esc. This made it pretty well setup for vice as those are the 3 most used keys in vice. Not sure why some games on c64 require hitting escape to get past some title screen/instructions screen while also using space or enter in that same game?

@rustymg Ooh, that's odd. I just use the joystick, if that doesn't work I have no idea what to suggest.