Thanks again.. i was working within emulation station to make sure things worked before bothering with attract mode.. but i did an update from binary and it seems my problem was fixed. Never woulda thought it woulda been a corrupt install from the start. That fixed a huge issue for me, and i shall now move on to the next. Thank you for your help. I build mame machines all the time so i understand the mechanics of mame and emulators, but using pi hardware introduces some curveballs.thank you again
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